1 00:00:35,050 --> 00:00:34,440 [Music] 2 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:35,060 [Applause] 3 00:02:03,910 --> 00:00:44,370 [Music] 4 00:02:08,790 --> 00:02:06,310 greetings and salutations friends and 5 00:02:10,469 --> 00:02:08,800 welcome back to truth seekers tonight 6 00:02:13,190 --> 00:02:10,479 we're going to be exploring a topic that 7 00:02:15,830 --> 00:02:13,200 i have kind of avoided and that is the 8 00:02:18,630 --> 00:02:15,840 topic of alien abductions i've always 9 00:02:20,949 --> 00:02:18,640 been fascinated by this topic because 10 00:02:23,670 --> 00:02:20,959 it appears that it is a worldwide 11 00:02:26,949 --> 00:02:23,680 phenomenon that crosses ethnicities 12 00:02:29,670 --> 00:02:26,959 races religions geographies 13 00:02:31,830 --> 00:02:29,680 and there are recorded 14 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:31,840 so-called abduction events throughout 15 00:02:36,869 --> 00:02:34,080 history which we can look into 16 00:02:39,110 --> 00:02:36,879 my guests tonight jamie and brianna uh 17 00:02:40,070 --> 00:02:39,120 have a podcast that i have been enjoying 18 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:40,080 lately 19 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:42,000 uh sometimes i take a comedic look at 20 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:43,760 these things and i fully support that 21 00:02:48,309 --> 00:02:45,760 because i do as well 22 00:02:51,350 --> 00:02:48,319 and their podcast is called that one 23 00:02:54,229 --> 00:02:51,360 time i got abducted by aliens there 24 00:02:56,790 --> 00:02:54,239 is a youtube channel and a website the 25 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:56,800 links are in the description i'd like to 26 00:03:02,470 --> 00:03:00,480 uh invite you to come and sample 27 00:03:04,390 --> 00:03:02,480 their work because if you just want to 28 00:03:07,350 --> 00:03:04,400 have a good time and talk about strange 29 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:07,360 topics cryptic creatures aliens alien 30 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:08,800 abductions 31 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:12,080 uh all matter of strangeness really uh 32 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:14,640 it is a fun ride for them so let's bring 33 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:16,239 in our guests 34 00:03:21,350 --> 00:03:19,120 here we have jamie and uh the other part 35 00:03:23,350 --> 00:03:21,360 of the team brianna is here 36 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:23,360 hello you guys are here i'm glad that 37 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:24,720 you guys are here 38 00:03:28,949 --> 00:03:27,040 yeah i'm super excited we have and we've 39 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:28,959 been hanging out lately on sundays 40 00:03:31,990 --> 00:03:30,720 campion's been showing up too we host a 41 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:32,000 little thing where it's like a stoner 42 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:33,920 chess on sundays it's not anywhere you 43 00:03:36,789 --> 00:03:35,760 just got to be there to be part of it so 44 00:03:38,309 --> 00:03:36,799 you've been kind of hanging out with 45 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:38,319 cambium behind the scenes lately so it's 46 00:03:42,789 --> 00:03:40,720 nice to finally be on camera with you 47 00:03:44,470 --> 00:03:42,799 yeah i like those laid-back sort of 48 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:44,480 panel things where you just go and have 49 00:03:49,270 --> 00:03:46,640 a good time it's like how i blow off 50 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:49,280 steam from doing the more serious stuff 51 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:50,879 and you guys do a great job of just 52 00:03:54,149 --> 00:03:52,720 everybody has a good time 53 00:03:56,630 --> 00:03:54,159 lately they've been talking about butt 54 00:03:59,429 --> 00:03:56,640 stuff though so maybe we'll get into 55 00:04:01,910 --> 00:03:59,439 anal probes and butt stuff absolutely 56 00:04:03,670 --> 00:04:01,920 absolutely why are aliens so interested 57 00:04:05,429 --> 00:04:03,680 in people's butts i don't know isn't 58 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:05,439 that yours 59 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:07,360 it's a topic 60 00:04:14,710 --> 00:04:10,560 it's a fun hole exactly 61 00:04:18,710 --> 00:04:16,870 league guy uh just said kyan and 62 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:18,720 generous 4.99 super chat and he says 63 00:04:22,310 --> 00:04:20,320 strippers haley 64 00:04:23,189 --> 00:04:22,320 they're dancers they're not strippers 65 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:23,199 okay 66 00:04:27,670 --> 00:04:25,840 is that horrible as a whole 67 00:04:31,030 --> 00:04:27,680 dancing i was like that's a whole vibe i 68 00:04:32,870 --> 00:04:31,040 love that i love your intro and i got in 69 00:04:34,629 --> 00:04:32,880 trouble because i mentioned on a 70 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:34,639 previous broadcast that i'm a christian 71 00:04:37,510 --> 00:04:35,919 and somebody said how could you be a 72 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:37,520 christian and have strippers in your 73 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:39,680 intro and i said they're not strippers 74 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:41,199 they're christian dancer girls they're 75 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:45,590 thank you guys for your kindness your 76 00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:47,520 generosity and your support of the show 77 00:04:51,749 --> 00:04:49,520 anybody wants to throw some money at me 78 00:04:53,909 --> 00:04:51,759 you know we love it 79 00:04:56,150 --> 00:04:53,919 so i've heard you guys i've heard you 80 00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:56,160 guys talk about all different topics and 81 00:05:00,629 --> 00:04:58,720 i was pissed because what's the uh the 82 00:05:03,350 --> 00:05:00,639 the thanksgiving cryptid i was going to 83 00:05:05,590 --> 00:05:03,360 do a show on that 84 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:05,600 and i said forget it forget it they 85 00:05:11,990 --> 00:05:10,390 there's not that much to it anyway 86 00:05:15,189 --> 00:05:12,000 there really wasn't a turkey 87 00:05:20,070 --> 00:05:17,590 yes it's the pet of bigfoot and it is 88 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:20,080 coming to angerly get mad at people 89 00:05:25,270 --> 00:05:22,080 killing other turkeys 90 00:05:27,189 --> 00:05:25,280 revenge of the turkey killers 91 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:27,199 oh god i love it and then you had the 92 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:29,039 other what was the other one for the 93 00:05:33,749 --> 00:05:30,160 [\h__\h] 94 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:33,759 heard of that one so i had to look that 95 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:35,759 one up but you guys talked about some 96 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:37,680 it's interesting how many cryptids are 97 00:05:41,189 --> 00:05:39,280 out there we kind of started just 98 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:41,199 talking about cryptids and then the more 99 00:05:45,270 --> 00:05:42,800 and more we dig into it we realized how 100 00:05:47,510 --> 00:05:45,280 big the cryptid rabbit hole is 101 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:47,520 it's very very it's very reminiscent of 102 00:05:50,629 --> 00:05:49,120 like the ufo rabbit hole that you go 103 00:05:51,830 --> 00:05:50,639 down you go down thinking it's one thing 104 00:05:53,350 --> 00:05:51,840 and then you start to dig and dig and 105 00:05:54,790 --> 00:05:53,360 realize oh my god this is like a lot 106 00:05:55,749 --> 00:05:54,800 more layers and there's so much more 107 00:05:57,830 --> 00:05:55,759 information out there that a lot of 108 00:05:59,749 --> 00:05:57,840 people don't know about the topic yeah i 109 00:06:02,070 --> 00:05:59,759 love i love your foot and all the 110 00:06:03,909 --> 00:06:02,080 variants so i've done shows on bigfoot 111 00:06:06,070 --> 00:06:03,919 we did a hairy man of alaska that's a 112 00:06:08,230 --> 00:06:06,080 scary one because it's a 15 foot tall 113 00:06:11,189 --> 00:06:08,240 bigfoot that likes to rip people apart 114 00:06:13,189 --> 00:06:11,199 and is very aggressive and nasty and uh 115 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:13,199 what is it a rang pen deck we did a show 116 00:06:18,629 --> 00:06:15,520 on that and some other stuff look rich 117 00:06:21,189 --> 00:06:18,639 leave it to rich to to uh to come with 118 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:21,199 yeah seriously richard buffon says 119 00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:23,440 aliens go to the butthole because that's 120 00:06:27,189 --> 00:06:24,960 the place that shows everything we eat 121 00:06:28,469 --> 00:06:27,199 and digest it shows everything exactly i 122 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:28,479 couldn't agree with that more that's 123 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:29,919 absolutely 100 percent 124 00:06:34,950 --> 00:06:31,120 hi rich 125 00:06:38,309 --> 00:06:37,029 so i've heard you guys cover all of 126 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:38,319 these subjects 127 00:06:41,909 --> 00:06:40,080 but your podcast is called that one time 128 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:41,919 i was abducted by aliens and i don't get 129 00:06:47,830 --> 00:06:44,560 too serious here but did you are you 130 00:06:50,230 --> 00:06:47,840 guys both uh experiencers in one form or 131 00:06:52,230 --> 00:06:50,240 another absolutely yeah 132 00:06:54,309 --> 00:06:52,240 can i can if it's not too personal can i 133 00:06:56,309 --> 00:06:54,319 hear a little bit about each of your 134 00:06:58,150 --> 00:06:56,319 absolutely yeah of course do you want to 135 00:07:00,790 --> 00:06:58,160 go first you want me to 136 00:07:03,430 --> 00:07:00,800 i'll go for first time and i have very 137 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:03,440 different types of experiences 138 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:06,160 although i will say over time 139 00:07:11,589 --> 00:07:08,800 maybe not so different 140 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:11,599 um i will tell you the first experience 141 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:14,000 that kind of led me into 142 00:07:18,309 --> 00:07:16,560 just exploring more about my past and 143 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:18,319 things that had happened 144 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:19,280 um 145 00:07:51,749 --> 00:07:20,160 i 146 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:51,759 totally paralyzed 147 00:07:56,869 --> 00:07:55,199 and the only thing yeah it was scary um 148 00:07:59,270 --> 00:07:56,879 the only thing i kept thinking over and 149 00:08:01,990 --> 00:07:59,280 over and again in my head almost like a 150 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:02,000 tape recorder was just over and over and 151 00:08:04,950 --> 00:08:03,680 over i just kept saying oh my god 152 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:04,960 they're coming they're coming they're 153 00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:07,120 coming they're here they're here 154 00:08:11,270 --> 00:08:09,680 and then it was a strange 155 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:11,280 instant knowing 156 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:13,680 that whoever they were 157 00:08:17,990 --> 00:08:15,840 they were whoever they were they were a 158 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:18,000 thing and that they had always come for 159 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:21,199 me and that i had done that many times 160 00:08:24,869 --> 00:08:23,599 it was like an instant knowing 161 00:08:26,790 --> 00:08:24,879 and then 162 00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:26,800 i don't remember anything else other 163 00:08:30,629 --> 00:08:27,759 than 164 00:08:32,709 --> 00:08:30,639 waking up after like snapping out of it 165 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:32,719 and i was 166 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:35,120 really upset at the time because it was 167 00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:37,360 like what the [\h__\h] was that 168 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:39,599 and i couldn't really remember anything 169 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:41,599 after that it was just 170 00:08:45,910 --> 00:08:43,440 they're here they're coming and then oh 171 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:45,920 my god they've always been coming for me 172 00:08:48,790 --> 00:08:48,000 so then that led me into 173 00:08:56,150 --> 00:08:48,800 what 174 00:08:58,470 --> 00:08:56,160 to really research alien abductions and 175 00:09:00,870 --> 00:08:58,480 i started to see a lot of similarities 176 00:09:02,710 --> 00:09:00,880 and then it wasn't later on 177 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:02,720 a lot of it in the podcast actually as 178 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:05,040 we started to talk about things 179 00:09:09,509 --> 00:09:06,880 that then i started to 180 00:09:10,470 --> 00:09:09,519 get a lot of weird memories back 181 00:09:13,269 --> 00:09:10,480 um 182 00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:13,279 memories of like as a child waking up 183 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:15,760 banging outside the door because 184 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:17,920 i was locked outside in the middle of 185 00:09:22,630 --> 00:09:20,880 the night like the door is locked 186 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:22,640 and my parents having to let me back 187 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:24,560 inside the house it wasn't like i was 188 00:09:27,509 --> 00:09:26,399 just sleepwalking and walked outside 189 00:09:30,550 --> 00:09:27,519 because then the door would have been 190 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:30,560 unlocked it was like i somehow 191 00:09:34,470 --> 00:09:32,560 was able to lock the door behind me and 192 00:09:35,430 --> 00:09:34,480 it was like it was a deadbolt at our old 193 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:35,440 house 194 00:09:39,430 --> 00:09:36,880 well do you have any conscious 195 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:39,440 recollection of of the beings themselves 196 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:41,040 and what you know like what they look 197 00:09:43,509 --> 00:09:42,640 like or what they 198 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:43,519 want 199 00:09:49,030 --> 00:09:46,160 and not at all and the only thing that 200 00:09:50,710 --> 00:09:49,040 i've ever seen has been in 201 00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:50,720 dreams 202 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:52,880 um because it was shortly after that 203 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:55,440 first paralyzing experience that 204 00:10:00,230 --> 00:09:57,440 immediately after i started having 205 00:10:02,069 --> 00:10:00,240 dreams it was like every single night i 206 00:10:04,150 --> 00:10:02,079 started to see craft in my dreams i 207 00:10:06,389 --> 00:10:04,160 started to see little beings in my 208 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:06,399 dreams tall beings 209 00:10:08,790 --> 00:10:07,440 um 210 00:10:11,190 --> 00:10:08,800 and then there was like a weird 211 00:10:12,630 --> 00:10:11,200 remembrance of some type of connection 212 00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:12,640 between them 213 00:10:15,670 --> 00:10:13,839 so 214 00:10:17,910 --> 00:10:15,680 nothing in my waking life where i've 215 00:10:20,389 --> 00:10:17,920 ever seen an actual being everything's 216 00:10:22,870 --> 00:10:20,399 been kind of like in a weird 217 00:10:26,230 --> 00:10:22,880 dream realm where i seem to get 218 00:10:28,630 --> 00:10:26,240 information from and then actually can 219 00:10:30,310 --> 00:10:28,640 see different beings 220 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:30,320 well i can imagine how that would get 221 00:10:34,710 --> 00:10:32,320 you obsessed with the topic and what 222 00:10:36,150 --> 00:10:34,720 about completely obsessed 223 00:10:38,389 --> 00:10:36,160 what about eugene and isn't it funny how 224 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:38,399 you two hooked up having had these crazy 225 00:10:42,470 --> 00:10:40,640 experiences that's cool well and that's 226 00:10:44,230 --> 00:10:42,480 also a big part of our experiences too 227 00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:44,240 so my experience is completely different 228 00:10:47,750 --> 00:10:45,760 from breeze it's almost the opposite 229 00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:47,760 where i i've had more uh what i would 230 00:10:52,389 --> 00:10:49,760 consider physical like on earth 231 00:10:54,310 --> 00:10:52,399 experiences so at the time i was about 232 00:10:55,990 --> 00:10:54,320 18 19 years old somewhere around there 233 00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:56,000 and i was living in oakland california 234 00:10:59,910 --> 00:10:58,079 at the time i spent a weekend down in my 235 00:11:01,509 --> 00:10:59,920 hometown with brie and i was driving 236 00:11:02,790 --> 00:11:01,519 home it was very late at night i was 237 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:02,800 with my boyfriend at the time i was in 238 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:04,640 the passenger seat and just as we were 239 00:11:08,949 --> 00:11:06,880 getting into the east bay area i noticed 240 00:11:10,790 --> 00:11:08,959 like a weird kind of light off in the 241 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:10,800 distance next to us as we were driving 242 00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:12,640 and the more and more i looked at it the 243 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:14,160 more i realized it wasn't a light it was 244 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:16,720 a craft and it was driving well driving 245 00:11:21,829 --> 00:11:19,600 flying really like low above like houses 246 00:11:23,430 --> 00:11:21,839 and stuff it was too low to be a plane 247 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:23,440 and it was too low to be a helicopter it 248 00:11:26,470 --> 00:11:24,800 didn't look like a helicopter and make 249 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:26,480 sounds and so i was really intrigued by 250 00:11:29,269 --> 00:11:28,000 what it was and i was just watching it 251 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:29,279 for a long time it was kind of going 252 00:11:32,949 --> 00:11:31,360 along with us on the car 253 00:11:34,310 --> 00:11:32,959 we started to get off the freeway and it 254 00:11:35,670 --> 00:11:34,320 kind of moved and went up and went 255 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:35,680 towards the city of oakland and i 256 00:11:40,389 --> 00:11:38,240 watched it fly and like land on top of 257 00:11:41,829 --> 00:11:40,399 this building and i was like i can see 258 00:11:43,269 --> 00:11:41,839 that building from my house that's 259 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:43,279 bizarre yeah 260 00:11:46,389 --> 00:11:45,120 so it's like i've i can see this from my 261 00:11:47,829 --> 00:11:46,399 house i know exactly where this building 262 00:11:49,829 --> 00:11:47,839 is if you know the oakland skyline 263 00:11:51,990 --> 00:11:49,839 there's not a lot of tall buildings um 264 00:11:54,069 --> 00:11:52,000 and so i went home ran upstairs to my 265 00:11:55,990 --> 00:11:54,079 you know up my stairs went there plopped 266 00:11:59,509 --> 00:11:56,000 right in the window and i could see this 267 00:12:01,590 --> 00:11:59,519 craft sitting on top of this building 268 00:12:03,430 --> 00:12:01,600 and the light on top of it is what 269 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:03,440 really made me think like what the hell 270 00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:04,880 could this be and this i'm talking like 271 00:12:09,110 --> 00:12:07,519 this is like early 2000s maybe like 2007 272 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:09,120 2008 kind of time 273 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:11,519 and it was a light and the single light 274 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:14,560 changed from green to red to blue to 275 00:12:18,389 --> 00:12:16,480 orange and it was like almost pulsating 276 00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:18,399 all of these different colors 277 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:20,639 and that's not what plane does or 278 00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:22,160 exactly and so my 279 00:12:27,110 --> 00:12:25,120 my immediate mind thought is oh my god i 280 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:27,120 don't really know like there's no plane 281 00:12:30,230 --> 00:12:28,800 or airplane or anything in the world led 282 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:30,240 lights weren't even really a big thing 283 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:32,480 back then so having a light do that was 284 00:12:36,710 --> 00:12:35,120 like super off so i stared at that for a 285 00:12:38,310 --> 00:12:36,720 really long time i have no idea how long 286 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:38,320 i looked at it for but eventually what 287 00:12:42,310 --> 00:12:40,320 happened was is i saw a red light kind 288 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:42,320 of coming through my window 289 00:12:45,910 --> 00:12:43,440 and it almost looked like a laser 290 00:12:47,509 --> 00:12:45,920 pointer and i initially kind of looked 291 00:12:49,350 --> 00:12:47,519 down to try to see if i could find 292 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:49,360 someone with a laser pointer but it's 293 00:12:52,550 --> 00:12:50,880 like two o'clock three o'clock in the 294 00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:52,560 morning there's nobody out in the 295 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:54,160 streets in oakland and nobody sure [\h__\h] 296 00:12:57,509 --> 00:12:55,920 has a goddamn laser pointer and i 297 00:12:58,870 --> 00:12:57,519 realize that the laser pointer's coming 298 00:13:00,230 --> 00:12:58,880 from where that building and where that 299 00:13:01,829 --> 00:13:00,240 craft is it's coming straight across 300 00:13:03,990 --> 00:13:01,839 it's not coming from up or down or 301 00:13:05,509 --> 00:13:04,000 sideways or something and once i realize 302 00:13:07,829 --> 00:13:05,519 that's where it's coming from it seems 303 00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:07,839 to start to scan the room almost like 304 00:13:11,350 --> 00:13:10,079 going from like the one edge to the wall 305 00:13:12,389 --> 00:13:11,360 to the other edge to the wall almost 306 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:12,399 like it was trying to figure out what 307 00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:14,160 was inside the room 308 00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:16,240 and at the time i had a friend named 309 00:13:20,629 --> 00:13:18,880 rafa and i called him and i was like hey 310 00:13:22,230 --> 00:13:20,639 this really weird thing is happening i 311 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:22,240 think that this is a freaking alien like 312 00:13:25,190 --> 00:13:23,360 this is what's happening i was really 313 00:13:27,829 --> 00:13:25,200 scared and i think he thought i was 314 00:13:29,829 --> 00:13:27,839 joking so he told me at the time to get 315 00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:29,839 water and lock myself in a closet 316 00:13:33,509 --> 00:13:31,760 because aliens can't open doors and 317 00:13:35,910 --> 00:13:33,519 they're afraid of water 318 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:35,920 if you know anything 319 00:13:39,829 --> 00:13:37,600 it's literally the plot of the movie 320 00:13:42,310 --> 00:13:39,839 signs 321 00:13:44,710 --> 00:13:42,320 oh yeah yeah yeah so 322 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:44,720 again so i take this very seriously i 323 00:13:47,590 --> 00:13:46,240 grab a bottle of water i get the time 324 00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:47,600 smoked cigarettes grab my cigarettes 325 00:13:50,550 --> 00:13:48,800 ashtray 326 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:50,560 went inside the closet locked myself in 327 00:13:54,069 --> 00:13:52,000 it i remember like smoking a few 328 00:13:56,710 --> 00:13:54,079 cigarettes and then i don't remember 329 00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:56,720 anything i wake up the next morning in 330 00:14:00,710 --> 00:13:58,959 bed tucked into bed like i had tucked 331 00:14:03,269 --> 00:14:00,720 myself in it was really weird and i had 332 00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:03,279 no recollection 333 00:14:09,750 --> 00:14:06,639 you have some missing time then exactly 334 00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:09,760 exactly and so at that moment i had no 335 00:14:13,750 --> 00:14:11,519 idea what had happened i just had woken 336 00:14:15,670 --> 00:14:13,760 up i had i knew for a fact that i did 337 00:14:17,350 --> 00:14:15,680 not put myself in bed and i woke up in 338 00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:17,360 bed and i knew immediately that 339 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:19,760 something was wrong but i had no memory 340 00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:21,760 or recollection of anything like that 341 00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:24,160 and a few maybe days or weeks later i 342 00:14:28,389 --> 00:14:26,399 kind of told brie in passing i was like 343 00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:28,399 hey i think i saw this ufo and had this 344 00:14:32,550 --> 00:14:30,560 weird experience and she literally goes 345 00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:32,560 okay that's cool that's nice 346 00:14:37,350 --> 00:14:35,040 and then like it was no big deal was no 347 00:14:39,030 --> 00:14:37,360 big deal 348 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:39,040 what was interesting is 349 00:14:44,230 --> 00:14:41,680 a few weeks later is when she had her 350 00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:44,240 experience and so we had our experiences 351 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:46,560 really close to each other but we never 352 00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:48,639 after that time talked about it ever 353 00:14:53,670 --> 00:14:51,680 again until like 10 years later 354 00:14:56,069 --> 00:14:53,680 yeah there was seven years had gone by 355 00:14:57,990 --> 00:14:56,079 yeah we didn't we didn't look up ufos we 356 00:15:00,710 --> 00:14:58,000 never talked about ufos like with each 357 00:15:02,550 --> 00:15:00,720 other we zero interest i moved to a 358 00:15:05,350 --> 00:15:02,560 different state we lost contact for a 359 00:15:08,150 --> 00:15:05,360 long time and then we got back together 360 00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:08,160 and then we would be hanging out and 361 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:09,519 on friday nights was kind of like our 362 00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:10,880 time to hang out and bree started 363 00:15:13,910 --> 00:15:12,480 watching ancient aliens 364 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:13,920 and she was like hey you want to come 365 00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:15,360 over and watch ancient aliens with me 366 00:15:19,030 --> 00:15:17,279 and i was like oh yeah actually i'm kind 367 00:15:20,790 --> 00:15:19,040 of into that stuff yeah sure let's watch 368 00:15:22,389 --> 00:15:20,800 it and then it just kind of started from 369 00:15:23,829 --> 00:15:22,399 there the more and more we talked about 370 00:15:26,069 --> 00:15:23,839 it we would you know get a little wine 371 00:15:28,230 --> 00:15:26,079 drunk smoke a little marijuana and then 372 00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:28,240 eventually we were like uh hey we've 373 00:15:31,910 --> 00:15:30,240 both had experiences and then we started 374 00:15:34,470 --> 00:15:31,920 talking about how we had these 375 00:15:36,389 --> 00:15:34,480 experiences about this same time and we 376 00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:36,399 we never talked about it so it really 377 00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:38,880 started the two of us really deep diving 378 00:15:42,069 --> 00:15:40,720 into the subject and really it was just 379 00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:42,079 trying to figure out our own stories and 380 00:15:47,350 --> 00:15:44,480 what it is that had happened to us 381 00:15:49,590 --> 00:15:47,360 yeah i i am uh i could i could 382 00:15:50,870 --> 00:15:49,600 definitely understand that situation i 383 00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:50,880 started down this rabbit hole because i 384 00:15:53,590 --> 00:15:51,920 saw some 385 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:53,600 a flying saucer when i was 10 years old 386 00:15:57,269 --> 00:15:54,560 in the woods 387 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:57,279 and i got obsessed and i wish to god i 388 00:16:01,030 --> 00:15:58,480 would have had a friend that i could 389 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:01,040 have talked to about it because i just i 390 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:03,440 never told anybody about it until 391 00:16:07,189 --> 00:16:05,600 until i did my first audio podcast on 392 00:16:09,749 --> 00:16:07,199 ufos and 393 00:16:11,749 --> 00:16:09,759 you know 20 20 years later 394 00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:11,759 i didn't have anybody to talk to nobody 395 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:13,360 that could help me understand the 396 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:15,360 experience so it was good that you guys 397 00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:17,600 uh had each other to lean on because 398 00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:18,639 this is like 399 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:21,360 it's it wasn't a traumatic for both of 400 00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:23,279 you to have these things happen that you 401 00:16:25,030 --> 00:16:24,079 like 402 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:25,040 for sure 403 00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:27,970 um 404 00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:29,680 [Music] 405 00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:32,320 man that's hard to say actually we see 406 00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:35,519 ufos a lot together i think like for me 407 00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:37,920 it's switched over to just seeing ufos 408 00:16:42,470 --> 00:16:39,920 all the time yeah i don't think i don't 409 00:16:43,829 --> 00:16:42,480 have any like consciousness remembering 410 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:43,839 yeah i don't have any conscious 411 00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:45,680 experiences with beans like in my 412 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:47,680 day-to-day life like i'm not [\h__\h] 413 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:49,680 calling in aliens and having 414 00:16:52,870 --> 00:16:51,360 conversations with them daily i see a 415 00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:52,880 lot of ufos especially when i'm with 416 00:16:56,230 --> 00:16:54,959 bree it seems to happen when the two of 417 00:16:59,189 --> 00:16:56,240 us are together 418 00:17:01,749 --> 00:16:59,199 but my big experiences a lot of it i 419 00:17:03,670 --> 00:17:01,759 don't remember nor can i say do i really 420 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:03,680 want to remember a lot of people say do 421 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:05,760 past life regression or this or that i'm 422 00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:07,360 good with knowing what i know the 423 00:17:12,549 --> 00:17:10,799 universe will tell me what i need 424 00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:12,559 i'm a little bit suspect of hypnotic 425 00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:14,720 regression and past life regressions 426 00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:16,559 yeah i'm personally just not into it not 427 00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:18,799 my cup of tea for others 428 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:20,959 i considered doing a hypnotic regression 429 00:17:25,189 --> 00:17:23,520 of my experience to see if i could get 430 00:17:27,429 --> 00:17:25,199 more details but 431 00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:27,439 i decided that i don't want to mess with 432 00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:28,720 my memories 433 00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:30,799 my memory i remember what i remember i 434 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:32,240 remember it pretty clearly pretty 435 00:17:35,669 --> 00:17:34,000 succinctly i didn't have any missing 436 00:17:37,830 --> 00:17:35,679 time or anything like that whole 437 00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:37,840 experience took you know 438 00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:39,679 minutes and it was over 439 00:17:44,789 --> 00:17:42,960 i and i'm afraid somebody yeah i know 440 00:17:47,350 --> 00:17:44,799 and i'm afraid that somebody's gonna get 441 00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:47,360 in there and implant things that weren't 442 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:50,160 part of the original experience and ruin 443 00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:52,160 the experience that i did have for me 444 00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:53,679 somehow so i just 445 00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:54,799 no then that's like 446 00:18:02,789 --> 00:17:56,640 barbara lamb actually offered to do it 447 00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:04,390 yeah she said you might find it really 448 00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:06,320 therapeutic and this and that but i was 449 00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:07,679 just worried that 450 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:10,000 my experience has been what it was i 451 00:18:13,990 --> 00:18:12,640 remember a certain way forever and i'm 452 00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:14,000 afraid that i'm going to come out of 453 00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:16,400 that seeing aliens or going up to the 454 00:18:20,230 --> 00:18:18,559 ship that never happened 455 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:20,240 because i've seen people do this it's 456 00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:22,160 all ufo next thing they know the 457 00:18:26,470 --> 00:18:24,640 hypnotic regressor is is guiding them 458 00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:26,480 through it and they've got missing time 459 00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:28,559 and then oh now i remember i was on the 460 00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:30,799 ship when i never remembered that before 461 00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:32,559 so i said i'm just going to leave my 462 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:35,520 memory intact right 463 00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:36,960 i'm sure it could be a good tool i'm 464 00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:38,240 sure it could be a good tool for some 465 00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:39,520 people oh and that's what i mean i'm 466 00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:41,520 sure that it works for some people and 467 00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:43,440 and it could be beneficial to a lot of 468 00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:45,360 people me personally like i'm i'm good 469 00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:47,039 with what i know i don't want to i don't 470 00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:48,160 want to know about the weird stuff that 471 00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:49,039 happened 472 00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:50,320 i'm happy 473 00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:51,440 i i 474 00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:53,280 feel like if the opportunity presents 475 00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:55,919 itself i would but just because i have a 476 00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,840 lot of i feel like blocks in my memory 477 00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:01,520 like i there's a few things that i 478 00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:02,960 remember and then it's just like 479 00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:05,200 blackness and that it 480 00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:08,000 and so a part of me that's gotta bug you 481 00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:10,000 right it's gotta bug yeah what's behind 482 00:19:13,510 --> 00:19:11,600 that black no 483 00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:13,520 yeah exactly and there's a lot of 484 00:19:17,029 --> 00:19:15,679 instances like that especially the more 485 00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:17,039 we started talking about things i was 486 00:19:20,789 --> 00:19:19,039 like oh [\h__\h] that was a memory unlock 487 00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:20,799 you know and then it's like but what 488 00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:22,240 else happened 489 00:19:27,669 --> 00:19:24,960 so i'm half and half about it 490 00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:27,679 but if it if it comes my way if see if 491 00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:29,760 barbara lamb offered herself i will get 492 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:32,160 her to do it i will call her and see if 493 00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:33,760 she will do it for you if you want to do 494 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:36,000 it like it has to seek me so the one 495 00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:37,520 thing i'll say is 496 00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:39,200 barbara lamb and i disagree on many many 497 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:40,720 things i interviewed her about her book 498 00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:42,240 meet the hybrids and i offered to do 499 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:43,919 genetic testing of all the hybrids in 500 00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:45,520 her book and none of them would have 501 00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:46,799 none of them would agree with genetic 502 00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:48,480 testing 503 00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:50,240 so that was suspect to me but what i 504 00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:52,320 will say about her is that she is a very 505 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:55,360 very well educated woman she's not just 506 00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:57,360 some nutter that said i'm a hypnotic 507 00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:00,320 regressionist she's very very you know 508 00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:03,039 she's got degrees in psychology and she 509 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:04,240 i think she's got a master's in 510 00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:05,760 something else like she's very well 511 00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:07,039 educated 512 00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:08,720 and and at least as far as the 513 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:10,480 regressions i've talked to three or four 514 00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:12,000 people that she's done them for that 515 00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:14,080 found it to be tremendously helpful to 516 00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:17,200 them so i decided like who am i to say 517 00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:20,559 to talk you know negatively about that 518 00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:24,000 with her because i know people that 519 00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:26,080 they did it and they found it helpful 520 00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:27,360 right 521 00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:29,760 yeah it's 522 00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:31,919 that whole thing is really kind of murky 523 00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:34,000 if you think about it you never really 524 00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:37,120 know is it real memory isn't it kind of 525 00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:39,679 did it you know she leads you there and 526 00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:42,720 your mind kind of puts pieces together 527 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:45,440 all of it is there's so much no one way 528 00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:46,960 or the other yeah there's so much that 529 00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:48,720 the mind is capable of that we don't 530 00:20:51,669 --> 00:20:50,159 understand especially when we're talking 531 00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:51,679 about like 532 00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:53,120 memories and things like that we only 533 00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:54,880 use a very small percentage of our brain 534 00:20:57,750 --> 00:20:56,320 so when you go in there 535 00:20:59,510 --> 00:20:57,760 exactly when you go in there and start 536 00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:59,520 messing around with things at the end of 537 00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:00,559 the day we don't really know the 538 00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:04,159 ramifications of any of those things 539 00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:07,200 yeah and it's interesting like i uh 540 00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:08,480 i for 541 00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:10,880 the time was very interested in hypnosis 542 00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:13,200 and it's actually been proven uh there's 543 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:15,520 a there's an english mentalist and 544 00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:16,480 hypnotist 545 00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,280 and they did a whole study on like 546 00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:21,280 this guy hypnotized people they gave 547 00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:23,280 them a gun with blanks and told them to 548 00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:25,280 go kill people to see if they would and 549 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:26,240 they did 550 00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:27,520 holy [\h__\h] 551 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:29,520 yeah it's some of that stuff is scary 552 00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:31,200 you don't know what the mind is capable 553 00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:33,120 of while in that hypnotic state there's 554 00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:33,919 100 555 00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:35,760 it's a big mystery that's why i said i'm 556 00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:37,520 staying away from that i'll stick with 557 00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:39,039 you same and i'm the same way exactly 558 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:40,880 conscious memory 559 00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:43,679 do you guys ever do some sort of a 560 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:45,840 comparison to see when you've had these 561 00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:47,280 experience that there's a common 562 00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:50,159 denominator or causal effect maybe or 563 00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:51,760 like if there's 564 00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:53,600 if there's like it happens on certain 565 00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:56,240 days or use you know 566 00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:58,799 lunar cycles i don't know 567 00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:00,240 the one thing i will say when it comes 568 00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:02,240 to the phenomenon with me and bree 569 00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:04,400 specifically it happens a lot when we're 570 00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:05,919 together especially when we're around 571 00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:08,000 other people too like it's it's we're 572 00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:09,919 very much i feel like a little bit of a 573 00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:12,960 beacon sometimes um and so i don't know 574 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:14,480 if it's necessarily a certain day or 575 00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:15,600 something like that but i know that the 576 00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:18,000 two of us together i think because we're 577 00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,679 super super open 578 00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:21,120 it makes people around us be a little 579 00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:22,480 bit more open so they have more 580 00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:24,159 experiences and i know that because 581 00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:25,600 we're so open we have our own 582 00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:27,679 experiences together a lot 583 00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:29,760 yeah like other people in our lives that 584 00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,480 have never seen a ufo tend to have their 585 00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:34,720 first experience or see something when 586 00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,039 they're with us or oh you guys 587 00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:39,360 i gotta come hang out with you guys 100 588 00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:41,280 100 please but 589 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:44,000 you know it's it's really i would never 590 00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:45,520 feel comfortable saying oh that's 591 00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,909 i think it's more that we took 592 00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:53,120 and especially when we're together we 593 00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:55,039 take the time to be outside and to 594 00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:56,720 actually night watch and to know the 595 00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:59,200 difference between different planes and 596 00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:00,960 you know satellites and things like that 597 00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:02,480 so i think it's just taking the time to 598 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:04,320 go out and look yeah most people don't 599 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:05,760 yeah 600 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:10,480 is a it's the highest elevation in the 601 00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:13,120 state of pennsylvania and the stars are 602 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:14,480 amazing first of all you're going to see 603 00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,000 all kinds of shooting stars and that's 604 00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:18,480 pleasant so even if i don't see ufos i 605 00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:20,240 can sit out there for a few hours and 606 00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,159 just watch the skies but i was thinking 607 00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:24,640 that myself recently like how many 608 00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:26,159 people will just 609 00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,320 take the time to spend two hours looking 610 00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:30,640 up at the stars in the sky exactly 611 00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:32,799 what's up there well up there it's such 612 00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:34,720 a high elevation that we see all kinds 613 00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:36,400 of stuff so i have to have the satellite 614 00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:38,720 map nearby because it turns out a lot of 615 00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:40,240 the things that i'm seeing 616 00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:42,320 are satellites because we're so high up 617 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:43,679 in elevation 618 00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,000 and that you see and plus there's no 619 00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:48,640 there's no light pollution so 620 00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:50,960 you can see the milky way on some nights 621 00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:52,799 if it's clear 622 00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:54,400 and one thing one thing that's important 623 00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:55,840 too when people are night watching is 624 00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:58,240 like to use tools or resources that are 625 00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,080 available to you like one thing that i 626 00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:02,159 have is like a star map on my phone that 627 00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:03,919 tracks satellites yeah i use something 628 00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:06,320 called stellarium yeah and so as long as 629 00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:07,520 people are using those it's not like 630 00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:08,640 we're just going out there and looking 631 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:09,760 at the sky and 632 00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:11,760 saying that anything that moves is a ufo 633 00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,279 there's i've been with people that do 634 00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:15,760 that and it was annoying yeah 635 00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:18,240 it was like it's a light in the sky calm 636 00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,320 down we don't know what it is let's 637 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:22,559 let's you know take a step back make 638 00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:24,240 sure it's not a satellite first make 639 00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:25,679 sure it's not a plane 640 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:27,679 right and and even with binoculars 641 00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:30,000 usually you can you can that's how i 642 00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:31,919 usually do it with binoculars or even a 643 00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:34,320 cheap telescope you can you can zoom in 644 00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:37,279 and go okay i see faa right compliant 645 00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:39,520 lights that's either a helicopter or 646 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:41,600 it's a it's an airplane i don't care 647 00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:43,200 about that move on to the next thing 648 00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:45,120 that you know yep exactly and that's 649 00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:46,320 really what it's about it's just about 650 00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:47,440 and you have to sit out there for 651 00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:50,000 literally hours and like a lot of times 652 00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:51,679 people don't know that one of the best 653 00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:54,799 times to see ufos is before the sun is 654 00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:57,120 rising because of the way the sun is uh 655 00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:58,960 sitting and the angle it has towards the 656 00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:00,799 sky and you get the reflection a lot 657 00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:02,080 better a lot of people think you just go 658 00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:03,440 out there when it's dark and it's night 659 00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:04,799 but if you talk to a lot of people who 660 00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:07,039 go to night watches it's literally like 661 00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,720 early early morning hours that you're 662 00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:10,480 out there looking for these ufos yeah 663 00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:11,760 and not a lot of people are up during 664 00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:14,000 that time out there 665 00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,520 i think i could do it because sometimes 666 00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:17,840 i drink till 5am at the cabin so i'll 667 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:24,549 what's the ufo retreat at the cabin yes 668 00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:26,480 everybody was joking 669 00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:28,559 before before the current health crisis 670 00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,200 hit everybody was joking and i got like 671 00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:33,360 the cabin there's enough land next to 672 00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,880 the cabin that's kind of woodsy that i 673 00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:36,320 can make some we were going to do 674 00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:37,440 something called contact in the 675 00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:38,960 mountains and make it free and whoever 676 00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:41,200 wants to come come i've got a bunch of 677 00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:43,120 tents and we'll find a place where we 678 00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:49,269 and we had stan we had stan gordon on my 679 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,200 show and he gave me a map there's all 680 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:53,520 kinds of bigfoot sightings all within 20 681 00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:55,600 miles of the cabin 25 miles of the cabin 682 00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:58,559 because it's pennsylvania mountains 683 00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:01,120 indian places and burial grounds and 684 00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:03,360 weird stuff all around the cabin so 685 00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:04,559 we're going to start something called 686 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:06,159 true sneakers road trips and i'm going 687 00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:07,200 to start 688 00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:14,470 there's bigfoot sightings in the area 689 00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:16,320 i'm just going to fly drones all over 690 00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:18,480 the place and and get footage and see if 691 00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:20,880 we see anything yeah that's cool so 692 00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:22,840 brees actually been bigfoot hunting 693 00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:26,880 before what was that like free 694 00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:29,679 it was really hard for me 695 00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:30,559 um 696 00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:32,240 yeah you're not a camper kind of girl 697 00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,240 you don't know 698 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:36,400 brie looks like she's fine she's high 699 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:37,840 maintenance she looks like she's a 700 00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:42,630 but she loves camping she is bougie but 701 00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:47,430 right it's so different no no i'm not 702 00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,200 even you know what my husband's more 703 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:51,200 about the glamp i'm not i'm down to just 704 00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,720 sleep in the tent 705 00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,559 with you know 706 00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:56,640 i love camping period i just love it i 707 00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:58,320 love everything about it 708 00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,080 me my wife started with tents and all 709 00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,000 but then after the kids and all you just 710 00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:04,320 say forget it yes i'll build a cabin and 711 00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:06,880 we're gonna be comfortable 712 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:08,320 no it was just hard for me because i was 713 00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,640 with a lot of people that seriously do 714 00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,240 this it was um 715 00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:14,720 we had like 716 00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:17,279 all kinds of people um and some of them 717 00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,600 were actually on finding bigfoot it was 718 00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:20,960 just a huge group it's almost like a 719 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,640 chapter and they have a 720 00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:24,320 area that they go to that they don't 721 00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:25,919 give out their location 722 00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:28,159 so you have to like follow written 723 00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:31,200 written directions with zero service for 724 00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:34,480 like three hours yeah that's what it is 725 00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:36,720 almost got lost at one point there's 726 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:39,039 just like coyotes wolves i mean like 727 00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,960 left and right just one way i thought we 728 00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:42,960 were gonna 729 00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:45,120 before we found the campsite 730 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,600 and then i just felt like they were very 731 00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:49,200 excited 732 00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:53,279 that i felt like they were 733 00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:55,200 embellished easily like they were yeah 734 00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:56,960 they would just like jump to anything 735 00:28:01,750 --> 00:28:00,240 like you know yeah i heard enough 736 00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:01,760 everything was a knock everything was a 737 00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,360 knock you hear that did you hear like 738 00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:05,440 they were just so 739 00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,000 desperate i think to believe that he was 740 00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,039 there that i was just very kind of on 741 00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:12,960 the outside like no 742 00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:15,279 i'm just a bit skeptical i was the one 743 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,440 skeptical person out of the whole group 744 00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:19,440 of like really 25 745 00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:22,399 is here so hey amy gorgeous lady 746 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:24,240 and i'm sorry that i made a comment that 747 00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:25,840 somebody didn't like in your live chat 748 00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,880 it was a joke i apologize for my crude 749 00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:30,960 and rude remarks about somebody wanting 750 00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:33,840 to get their hole drilled i apologize 751 00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,720 i own up to my mistakes i will not talk 752 00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:38,240 about women wanting to get their hole 753 00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:41,520 drilled in your live chat again 754 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:43,279 women want to get their hole drilled and 755 00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:44,640 we should 756 00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:49,840 too sensitive in this world 757 00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:51,279 absolutely 758 00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:55,279 so i wanted to also ask because because 759 00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:58,240 of your personal experiences like what 760 00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,840 do you think about the prevailing 761 00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:01,679 theories out there like 762 00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:03,440 some people think that the abduction 763 00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:04,799 experience has something to do with 764 00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:07,039 reproduction they're trying to you know 765 00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:09,279 make alien hybrids 766 00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:12,480 and some people think that it is it is 767 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:14,960 all a mental or consciousness experience 768 00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:17,200 and not so physical and i mean there's 769 00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:18,720 all these different 770 00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:22,000 um theories you know one thing that 771 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:23,760 gives me pause is when somebody tells 772 00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:24,720 you 773 00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:28,240 phenomenon is all about 774 00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:29,120 and they 775 00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:30,960 say they have the answers i'm a little 776 00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:32,720 suspect to that but what do you guys 777 00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:35,279 think about these theories 778 00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:37,440 related to your experiences 779 00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,200 it's all of the above that's the thing 780 00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:41,679 though it's there's not a pinpoint 781 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:43,440 there's not what we can pinpoint on it 782 00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,640 and if you think about just like 783 00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,320 mathematically the possibilities that 784 00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,919 are out there what aliens could be and 785 00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,679 what their their what what they're 786 00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:51,520 trying to achieve by coming here and 787 00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:52,880 [\h__\h] with us 788 00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:54,559 we probably have never even said the 789 00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:55,679 answer because that's how many 790 00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,000 possibilities they are right so like 791 00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,480 interdimensional intergalactic you know 792 00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,840 so who yeah 793 00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:03,600 who are we to put it in 794 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:07,520 of box and say that why can't all of it 795 00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:08,399 be happening 796 00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:09,679 you know what i mean 797 00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:12,000 not only that but also just to think of 798 00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:13,679 there's just the aliens like there's 799 00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:15,200 just one 800 00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:17,919 other extraterrestrial type when 801 00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:18,720 no 802 00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,799 i mean all the planets out there god 803 00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,039 there could be thousands and thousands 804 00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:25,279 of different civilizations that are also 805 00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:27,440 living the way that we are so how do we 806 00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,440 say if there's no aliens 807 00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,440 what a tremendous waste of space it 808 00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:33,360 would be if there's no age genuinely so 809 00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:35,360 they don't all have the same goal i 810 00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:36,960 think it's a little bad 811 00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:39,279 thing i think it's a lot of averages and 812 00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:41,039 i did something with computer science to 813 00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:41,840 go 814 00:30:45,029 --> 00:30:44,080 like let's do a procedural generated 815 00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:45,039 world 816 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:47,840 and on some of the planets 817 00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:50,720 just by chance the signs for life would 818 00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:53,039 would you know that all the ingredients 819 00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:54,960 necessary for life would happen by 820 00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:57,840 chance and it may only happen you know 821 00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:00,480 like in in one solar system and then the 822 00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:03,200 next 25 solar systems have no life 823 00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:06,640 because by chance the the the odds you 824 00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:09,039 know the dice roll didn't work out 825 00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:11,519 so i think there has to be john 826 00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:14,159 paul fartier with uh kind and generous 827 00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:16,559 thank you love you thank you 828 00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:17,840 great work you're doing hey brianna 829 00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,440 jamie i enjoy your channel lots of fun 830 00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:21,519 yes and their channel link is in the 831 00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:23,760 about section so everybody go over there 832 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:26,799 give them a bump they gotta get to the 833 00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:28,720 nose going on there 834 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,640 you know a lot of people are mentioning 835 00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:32,640 in the chat and i think that that's also 836 00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:35,840 valid um we do like dmt so yeah so 837 00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,600 people are actually making fun of dmt 838 00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:39,120 they're saying dmt elves are definitely 839 00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:40,640 some sort of entities 840 00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:42,559 so but i highly recommend everybody 841 00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:43,760 before you continue i just want to get 842 00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:45,120 this out i highly recommend everyone who 843 00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:47,039 look up andrew gallimore who wrote a 844 00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:49,279 book about dmt and contact modalities 845 00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:51,440 when it comes to extraterrestrials go 846 00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,360 read that before you make any comments 847 00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:55,679 about dmt and extraterrestrials just go 848 00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:57,519 read it before it'll completely change 849 00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,440 your mind about what's going on when it 850 00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:01,440 comes to dmt and extraterrestrials go 851 00:32:04,149 --> 00:32:02,480 ahead bree 852 00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:04,159 i'm just was going to say that i think 853 00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:05,840 we really have to open up our minds to 854 00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:08,159 all the different possibilities and 855 00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,120 um 856 00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:11,519 you know we have no idea what life even 857 00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:14,320 is so how can we just assume that aliens 858 00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:15,919 are one thing and that they can't be 859 00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:17,200 other things 860 00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:18,640 and so i think for me it's the same 861 00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,399 thing when people say they know what it 862 00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:22,159 is 863 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,720 yeah you have absolutely no idea it i 864 00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:33,120 mean this universe is huge who knows if 865 00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:34,559 we're only in one we could be in a 866 00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:36,000 multiverse there could be parallel 867 00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:39,360 timelines we have no idea so we have to 868 00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:41,440 stop trying to put this phenomenon in a 869 00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:44,240 box that's why it's a phenomenon because 870 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:46,960 we have no [\h__\h] idea 871 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:49,519 but dmt is interesting in that and 872 00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:52,000 so many people that do a dmt experience 873 00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:54,480 have similar experiences 874 00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:56,399 but i think again that could be chance i 875 00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,640 don't know i saw a purple being but i 876 00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:00,720 like like andre lee did and that's why 877 00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:02,480 when i heard her story i'm like she got 878 00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:04,080 dosed or something because so many 879 00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:06,640 people report seeing a purple being in 880 00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:08,000 my case i didn't think that it was 881 00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:09,600 aliens i thought it was uh 882 00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:11,279 interdimensional i thought that the 883 00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:13,840 veils of perception just got pulled away 884 00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:15,840 and that i could see across dimensions 885 00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:17,840 or something it's interesting that you 886 00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:19,519 say that though because i think that's 887 00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:21,440 what bree's talking about too is like 888 00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:23,279 when people say alien you think about 889 00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:25,120 alien from space but when i think about 890 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:27,120 alien i also think about extra 891 00:33:29,909 --> 00:33:28,320 interdimensional beings and extra 892 00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:29,919 dimensional beings right like i don't 893 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:31,600 think aliens necessarily have to come 894 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:34,320 from space per se i think that an alien 895 00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:36,880 to me i would consider not not a human 896 00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:38,960 that is an alien it's not human it's not 897 00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:41,120 terrestrial it's everything it's an 898 00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:43,600 ultra dimensional or interdimensional so 899 00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:45,679 who they're all over the place and i 900 00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:47,200 also think that's why there's different 901 00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:48,559 types of 902 00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:51,200 contact experiences because we could be 903 00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:52,720 dealing with something physical that's 904 00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:54,559 on the same place with us we could be 905 00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:56,399 something dealing with something that's 906 00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:58,399 just consciousness because maybe it has 907 00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,679 to do with all different types of 908 00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:01,440 dimensions so there's other beings that 909 00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:03,360 can come in and out of that 910 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,840 and so i think we really have to just 911 00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:07,120 open 912 00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:08,480 i think we just need to create more 913 00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,960 space for for possibilities and and 914 00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:12,320 consider that we're not just talking 915 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:14,879 about one thing we're talking about many 916 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,000 things 917 00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,800 and that's half of the fun it's like 918 00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:21,119 we'll never get to the bottom of it 919 00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:22,079 but it's 920 00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:24,320 it's just fun to even consider all the 921 00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:25,520 different possibilities and the 922 00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:26,960 different types of contacts that are 923 00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:30,159 happening and somebody in the live chat 924 00:34:34,750 --> 00:34:32,240 somebody in the facebook 925 00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:34,760 live was asking what is dmt it's uh 926 00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:37,679 dimethyltryptamine it is a natural it is 927 00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:39,919 a it is a hallucinogen but it's also 928 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:42,079 naturally occurring in our body yep it's 929 00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:43,760 interesting that some people 930 00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,119 uh 75 or 78 of people who have a heart 931 00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:49,760 attack also have a dmt experience 932 00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,440 your death experiences have been 933 00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:53,440 attributed to dmt 934 00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:55,520 and uh it's been called the soul 935 00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:57,839 molecule which is interesting 936 00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:00,480 you know yeah it's in not just humans 937 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,599 but it's in most organic material most 938 00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:05,760 plants animals 939 00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:08,560 so it's already in our bodies and so 940 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,880 there's a part of me that wonders if if 941 00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:13,040 that's also for a reason you know i 942 00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,560 don't really believe in coincidences 943 00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,079 that much it's the same thing about 944 00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:18,079 having thc receptors inside of your body 945 00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,599 right so there's only two ways that we 946 00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:22,000 could have had thc receptors number one 947 00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:23,680 we as a species were born with them are 948 00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:25,200 number two we evolved over time to 949 00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:27,440 having thc receptors which means at the 950 00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:29,280 end of the day we as a people have 951 00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:31,200 always been using cannabis it's always 952 00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:32,000 been 953 00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:34,480 yeah probably yeah or there's that stone 954 00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:36,640 tape theory that that 955 00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:39,040 that uh maybe we started evolving 956 00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:41,760 because we started eating mushrooms and 957 00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:43,280 our brains started getting bigger and we 958 00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:45,119 started figuring things out during these 959 00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,200 hallucinogenic trips you know things 960 00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,599 like wheels and i don't know it can be a 961 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:51,119 creative 962 00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:55,040 you know 963 00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:57,200 absolutely anything that opens up your 964 00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:00,160 mind to other possibilities i think has 965 00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:02,480 value 100 966 00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:03,839 yeah yeah 967 00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:04,880 yeah 968 00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:05,760 so 969 00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:07,839 what about these uh i noticed that you 970 00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:10,079 guys talked to grant cameron recently 971 00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:12,000 he's still on my list of people that i 972 00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:15,280 like there's very few left 973 00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:16,960 because i interviewed him before a 974 00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:18,880 couple of times and i i'm very 975 00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,560 interested in the fact that he was all 976 00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,640 about nuts and bolts and then switched 977 00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:24,480 to the consciousness 978 00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:26,960 to all consciousness and experiencers 979 00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:29,040 and every every person that has an 980 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,280 experience he wants to talk to and hear 981 00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:33,119 about the experience 982 00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,440 he believes that a lot of this including 983 00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:37,599 the craft may be conscious related and 984 00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:40,720 recently we have this news that um 985 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,320 there are some people that have some 986 00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,160 part of their brain that may make them 987 00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,000 more receptive to 988 00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:48,240 to seeing these things what do you guys 989 00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:49,680 think of this stuff 990 00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:52,000 well i love grant cameron we love grant 991 00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:54,079 cameron and one of the big things that 992 00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:55,920 drawed us towards great cameras the same 993 00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:57,520 thing as you he went from this very nuts 994 00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:59,359 and bolts over to this very conscious 995 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:01,040 consciousness side and that's kind of 996 00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:02,720 been my personal journey as well over 997 00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:04,000 the years that i've been investigating 998 00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,680 this i started off very like government 999 00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:07,920 documents i want to talk about the old 1000 00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,000 stories and things and then over time i 1001 00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:12,160 evolved what it is i i 1002 00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:14,560 talk about in this subject and grant is 1003 00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:16,560 one of those people who did that switch 1004 00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:18,800 and and it hits home for me because i 1005 00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:20,560 recognize so much of what he has it's 1006 00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:22,800 just you keep researching for so long 1007 00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,160 that you just get to a point where you 1008 00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:26,240 realize it's so much bigger than just 1009 00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:27,680 what you're looking at on your computer 1010 00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,880 you know 1011 00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:30,720 yeah 1012 00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:32,000 and there was a time when i wouldn't 1013 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:34,720 talk to any experiencer i would say well 1014 00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:35,520 because 1015 00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:37,520 i i guess experiencers kind of let me 1016 00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:40,480 down or you know i want i want like like 1017 00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:42,480 you said nuts and bolts stuff i want 1018 00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:43,760 like you know 1019 00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:45,760 proof and evidence and documentation of 1020 00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:48,160 what it is you know some something that 1021 00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:50,320 i can that i can scientifically check 1022 00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:52,400 and with many experiencers they just 1023 00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:54,240 have the experience and they they can't 1024 00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:55,599 offer more exactly 1025 00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:56,960 well if you're just nuts and bolts that 1026 00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:58,960 means you always need something that has 1027 00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:00,960 a physical like a physical trace right 1028 00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:03,760 you always need that tangible proof but 1029 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,480 a lot of this phenomena is not it's not 1030 00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:08,880 tangible it is not 1031 00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:11,599 it's not physical in the matter that we 1032 00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:14,240 expect and that i think we need a lot of 1033 00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:16,480 the time to believe in something so it's 1034 00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:19,040 challenging for people that don't think 1035 00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:21,119 like that because it's just totally out 1036 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,680 of their realm that i think there's so 1037 00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:25,920 much hesitance to even dip your toe in 1038 00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:27,599 that because there's no proof and if 1039 00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:28,960 there's no proof then you're like how 1040 00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:31,119 can i believe it you know yeah but to me 1041 00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:33,040 there's there's got to be some value in 1042 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,560 this because so many people are having 1043 00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:36,720 similar experiences so even if it's not 1044 00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:37,839 a physical 1045 00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,839 physical real experience i could prove i 1046 00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:41,280 want to know why people all over the 1047 00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,440 world are having these experiences well 1048 00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,599 let me let me ask you a question cammie 1049 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:47,280 and then so you know you had your 1050 00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:48,880 experience and 1051 00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:50,560 are you someone who entertains the idea 1052 00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:52,160 that aliens are real 1053 00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:54,320 yeah oh absolutely okay right so but 1054 00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:57,280 what you have that you believe that 1055 00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:59,520 because you had your experience right no 1056 00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:01,280 i think i would believe that even if not 1057 00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:02,320 regardless 1058 00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:03,760 yeah because just from scientific 1059 00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:06,079 standpoint all the exoplanets that are 1060 00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:08,079 being discovered there's got to be some 1061 00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,520 other yeah 1062 00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:11,119 and then sometimes i think that we might 1063 00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:12,720 be missing things like how do we know 1064 00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:15,200 that octopuses aren't smarter than us 1065 00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:16,240 some people 1066 00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:17,440 no they are 1067 00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:20,079 they are smarter than us 1068 00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,760 yeah dolphins 1069 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:23,280 have you ever seen an octopus open a jar 1070 00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:24,880 that shits that [\h__\h] crazy 1071 00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:26,960 yes i saw a video that it's great did 1072 00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:28,880 you guys watch that uh it's like my 1073 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:31,680 teacher or something like that 1074 00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:33,119 my octopus teacher now i heard it was 1075 00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,560 sad so i didn't want to watch it yeah i 1076 00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,960 cried so much but it was like wow 1077 00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:38,880 there's an interaction there there's 1078 00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:42,480 [\h__\h] smarts they are so smart 1079 00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:44,640 it's mind-blowing 1080 00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:46,240 yeah so for all we know we have 1081 00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:47,520 intelligent life right here we just 1082 00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,800 don't know how to communicate with them 1083 00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:50,720 because especially octopuses i think 1084 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:52,480 they communicate with like colors and 1085 00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:56,560 ink and stuff it's like a weird 1086 00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:57,520 yeah 1087 00:40:02,470 --> 00:40:00,320 we as humans have this 1088 00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:02,480 defect in us i feel like where we just 1089 00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:04,480 think we know everything and we're just 1090 00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:06,319 as smart as it gets and it's just pure 1091 00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:08,960 ignorance so much ignorance 1092 00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:11,119 it's [\h__\h] crazy 1093 00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:12,480 and um 1094 00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:14,880 grant cameron's book contact modalities 1095 00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:18,880 is so good and he really breaks it down 1096 00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:20,800 scientifically the different parts in 1097 00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:22,720 your brain and what they're responsible 1098 00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:25,040 for and i think um if anyone's 1099 00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,960 interested in even dipping their toe on 1100 00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:28,640 the consciousness side that's the book 1101 00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:31,040 to read because 1102 00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:32,880 he takes you from the science of that 1103 00:40:36,790 --> 00:40:34,960 and i have that book but i got a shelf 1104 00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:36,800 of books i never read because i'm always 1105 00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,520 like 1106 00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,119 you know i think when i buy a book what 1107 00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:41,520 i'm really buying is the thought that 1108 00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:43,280 i'm going to have the time to read it 1109 00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:45,200 yes i do that too 1110 00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:46,800 i'll buy this book and i'll put on the 1111 00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:48,880 shelf and some night i'll i'll someday 1112 00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:50,640 i'll take it off read it yep i'll start 1113 00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:52,720 the fireplace i got a nice chair here 1114 00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:54,640 and a reading lamp and i'll have a nice 1115 00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:55,839 you know what i read this book and then 1116 00:40:59,829 --> 00:40:57,760 i just don't get to some of them i do 1117 00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:59,839 worse sometimes i'll read a whole book 1118 00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:01,920 except like the last the last two 1119 00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:06,710 i'll read halfway and then just assume 1120 00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:08,240 that i know the book and then put it 1121 00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:10,880 down and then start a new book so it's 1122 00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:13,359 like such it's typical a dd it's like i 1123 00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:15,119 i'm buying another book before i'm 1124 00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,800 finishing the first book and then i'm 1125 00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:18,240 just like oh yeah i'll get back to it 1126 00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:26,870 i'm an expert at getting many things 1127 00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,520 ninety percent finished same same 100 1128 00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:31,440 yeah and then i start something new 1129 00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,079 before i get that other 10 done but 1130 00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:36,560 eventually i focus enough that i come 1131 00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:38,800 back to the things and then it makes me 1132 00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:40,480 look like a super genius sometimes 1133 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,000 because then it's like how the hell did 1134 00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,160 this guy make like you know five thing 1135 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,079 or like five minutes 1136 00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:48,800 i made a seven hour long concept music 1137 00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:51,359 album and i just pecked away at it for a 1138 00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:53,359 few years and then eventually and it was 1139 00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:55,040 90 percent done for months and months 1140 00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:56,640 and months and eventually it's amazing 1141 00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,760 i'm gonna sit here and finish it 1142 00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,359 everybody's like god damn this guy's a 1143 00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,000 genius no 1144 00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:03,839 i didn't finish it for years and then i 1145 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,319 finally got to it yeah it's a shame you 1146 00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,160 know i want to answer randall's question 1147 00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:10,000 here uh we're going to say the same 1148 00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:11,520 thing okay go for it brielle let you 1149 00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:12,480 take it down 1150 00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:14,640 which is the question 1151 00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,880 oh rainbow yeah no no i'll let you break 1152 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:18,079 you take it but you're on a roll go for 1153 00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:18,720 it 1154 00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,400 have both come to this conclusion that 1155 00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:26,400 for sure whatever you believe in you 1156 00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:28,480 give the most power to 1157 00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:29,440 so 1158 00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:32,079 i think a lot of things happen literally 1159 00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:34,880 just because we solely believe that 1160 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:37,119 something else has the power over that 1161 00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,160 thing 1162 00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:40,560 so in a lot of these instances 1163 00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:43,119 people are jumping to conclusions that 1164 00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:45,440 all of these um alien experiences and 1165 00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:48,400 whatnot are all demonics because when 1166 00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:50,720 they say something like in the name of 1167 00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:53,200 jesus you know be gone or whatever and 1168 00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:54,880 it goes away 1169 00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:56,720 they're just thinking that it was 1170 00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,119 literally jesus but i guarantee you if 1171 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,280 you also believed in 1172 00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:03,520 some buddha or 1173 00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:04,640 yeah 1174 00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,720 it can be it's not does it matter it's 1175 00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:08,640 the fact that you 100 1176 00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:11,359 believe in that higher power you gave 1177 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:12,560 that power 1178 00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,800 mm-hmm it's not about it's not about the 1179 00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:16,319 words that you use it's about the 1180 00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:17,920 meaning and the power behind what you're 1181 00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:19,280 saying 1182 00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:20,560 absolutely 1183 00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,480 you know i i grew up with a very 1184 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:24,880 religious father who uh he thought that 1185 00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:27,599 aliens were demons and trickster spirits 1186 00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:29,599 and things like that he had they're not 1187 00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:31,760 from other planets that's from the devil 1188 00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:33,440 and like he would get pissed off if we 1189 00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,040 had like you know 1190 00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:37,680 alien stuff or books or you know like 1191 00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:39,520 it's kind of crazy but he was that 1192 00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:41,440 religious and he 1193 00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:44,560 he was convinced that uh that the 1194 00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:47,040 the all the whole thing was trickster 1195 00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:48,880 demon spirits that were trying to trick 1196 00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:50,560 us into believing that they were from 1197 00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:51,839 outer space 1198 00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:53,680 and i i always wanted to say like for 1199 00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:55,040 what reason would they do that but 1200 00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,560 whatever you know everybody's got their 1201 00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:58,000 own beliefs and 1202 00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,440 you know 1203 00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:01,040 catholic brainwashing will do that to 1204 00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:02,800 you i guess 1205 00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,920 yeah for sure and i mean i cannot i can 1206 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:07,200 understand where they're coming from 1207 00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:11,440 because they've stuck to a certain 1208 00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:12,400 belief 1209 00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,079 you've convinced yourself 1210 00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,400 of that and then also just to block out 1211 00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:20,240 anything else that doesn't exist in that 1212 00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:21,119 box 1213 00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:23,599 and it's just automatically if it's not 1214 00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:26,640 in that box no it's not that 1215 00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:29,040 and i think that more and more people 1216 00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:31,520 are starting to break out of those boxes 1217 00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:33,280 and are still keeping their faith but 1218 00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:35,359 then also realizing that there is room 1219 00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:37,760 for more mm-hmm 1220 00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:39,680 yeah yeah that's very that's that's a 1221 00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:40,720 hard 1222 00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,640 of people 1223 00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:46,720 i think for a long time 1224 00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:48,640 spirituality and religion had a cap i 1225 00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:50,160 think on it and i think that in our new 1226 00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:51,839 society that cap has been taken off 1227 00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:53,920 there's not a cap on it anymore and it's 1228 00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,520 really scaring a lot of people who've 1229 00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:57,359 who have been like in the old world when 1230 00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:59,119 it comes to religion because the new 1231 00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:00,960 world isn't gonna stand for that anymore 1232 00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:02,079 it's you know you think about it the 1233 00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:04,319 same way like the queen had to adapt to 1234 00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:06,319 the new rules right the queen had all 1235 00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:07,760 these crazy rules over in england that 1236 00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,880 she follows but all of that is 1237 00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:10,319 drastically different now compared to 1238 00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:13,200 what she did 40 years ago 1239 00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:15,440 yeah and and you're right that the 1240 00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:17,680 subject is now becoming so much more 1241 00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:20,240 mainstream before it was just 1242 00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:21,760 people would chuckle when you mentioned 1243 00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:23,599 aliens or ufos 1244 00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:25,200 and now because of recent admissions 1245 00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:26,400 they're like 1246 00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:28,240 well they're real we don't know what 1247 00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:29,599 they are but they're real and that's 1248 00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,040 that's an important first step i guess 1249 00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,800 yeah 1250 00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:36,880 what do you guys think 1251 00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:38,000 you know one of the other things that 1252 00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:39,359 i've been thinking about is people with 1253 00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:41,280 absolutes like there's some people in 1254 00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:43,200 this field that say oh that all the 1255 00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:45,359 aliens are benevolent and then there's 1256 00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,720 other people that think they're all evil 1257 00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:50,960 i don't think it's absolutely naive 1258 00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:52,400 yeah i think i think that they're 1259 00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:54,000 they're neither because i think that at 1260 00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:55,920 the end of the day what we use are 1261 00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:57,920 earthly words to describe things and we 1262 00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,160 describe things as good and bad what is 1263 00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:02,480 here on earth but 1264 00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:04,800 saying good or bad or beloved or not 1265 00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:06,960 belevelant i just how are we to grasp 1266 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:08,400 our understand that we when we are only 1267 00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,240 looking at it from our perspective right 1268 00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:12,720 think about it when we tag uh animals 1269 00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:15,280 like uh whales in the ocean 1270 00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:16,800 from a whale's perspective it looks like 1271 00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:17,839 we're being very aggressive we're 1272 00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:19,760 kidnapping them we're literally stabbing 1273 00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,560 them with uh things that track them and 1274 00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,480 to that that could seem super bad and 1275 00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:26,319 negative but but realistically what 1276 00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:27,760 we're doing is we're trying to help them 1277 00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:28,800 we're trying to further along their 1278 00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:30,400 species but for the from their 1279 00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,960 perspective we're the [\h__\h] 1280 00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,400 that's very good way to look at it 1281 00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,240 actually because 1282 00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,400 they could be i've often thought you 1283 00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:40,400 know pys may well you've been looking at 1284 00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,760 this for a long time what do you think 1285 00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,359 they're here for and i've often thought 1286 00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:45,359 that it's some kind of anthropology 1287 00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:46,480 project 1288 00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:47,440 like 1289 00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:48,880 maybe they're 1290 00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,560 you know tens of thousands of years 1291 00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:52,480 ahead of us in technology 1292 00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:55,359 and of course they would be interested 1293 00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:57,760 in in a species that's so far behind 1294 00:47:02,150 --> 00:47:00,400 them like let's let's study these people 1295 00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:02,160 that just discovered how to split the 1296 00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:05,440 atom because we did that 100 000 years 1297 00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:06,319 ago 1298 00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:09,040 and we don't really remember what that 1299 00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:10,720 part of our technological development 1300 00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:11,839 was like and maybe we could learn 1301 00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:13,520 something about our own history from 1302 00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:16,000 these from this species that is going 1303 00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:18,160 through that now 1304 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:22,950 yeah 1305 00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:24,640 there's and there there's also another 1306 00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:26,079 huge possibility that there are a lot of 1307 00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:27,119 theory that people have been talking 1308 00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:28,960 about that a lot of these ufos and stuff 1309 00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:31,440 are not actually aliens but it's us from 1310 00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:33,280 the future 1311 00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:35,200 that's a good weird theory yeah and look 1312 00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:36,720 at us and that's called something i 1313 00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:39,280 forget it yeah it's the name of it 1314 00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:40,319 uh dr 1315 00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:41,280 uh 1316 00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,640 matthew no doctor michael masters there 1317 00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:46,640 we go everyone look him up 1318 00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,240 darling hawkins with a kind and generous 1319 00:48:04,069 --> 00:47:50,640 five dollar to what dorothy 1320 00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:06,630 yes so if you just look strictly at the 1321 00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,720 bible and we talk about the same sense 1322 00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:10,240 i'm talking about how we have earthly 1323 00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,079 words for things right when you talk 1324 00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:14,240 about things like angels or chariots in 1325 00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:16,880 the skies with fire to me that is 1326 00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:19,119 textbook describing of aliens right you 1327 00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:20,800 have something that looks like an angel 1328 00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:23,440 etheric uh it hurt my eyes to look at it 1329 00:48:26,309 --> 00:48:24,480 kind of thing that could be an 1330 00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:26,319 extraterrestrial and these flaming 1331 00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:28,480 chariots in the sky could be their ufos 1332 00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:29,920 so i think when a lot of people have 1333 00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,079 these experiences with things like uh 1334 00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:34,240 maybe guardian angels or angels and 1335 00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:35,760 things like that who's to say that 1336 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:38,079 they're not extraterrestrials especially 1337 00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:39,760 when you think about extraterrestrials 1338 00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:41,839 on an inter-dimensional 1339 00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:44,240 realm and not necessarily only coming 1340 00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,240 from space so i think that there's a 1341 00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:48,800 huge parallel in that and i think that a 1342 00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,040 lot of people probably have a lot of 1343 00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:53,440 experiences with aliens but because of 1344 00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:55,119 their religious upbringing think that 1345 00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:56,319 it's something completely different than 1346 00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:57,920 what it actually is 1347 00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,680 yeah i mean we we all see things through 1348 00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:01,520 the prism of our culture that we've 1349 00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,359 experienced exactly 1350 00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:05,119 you know like i have a jewish friend and 1351 00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,640 he had uh 1352 00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,640 he had poltergeist or weird activity in 1353 00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:10,640 his house and he saw it through the lens 1354 00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:12,640 of being jewish you know that this was 1355 00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:16,240 like a jewish bad spirit it wasn't it 1356 00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:17,920 wasn't the it wasn't 1357 00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:20,079 the christian version it was the jewish 1358 00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,480 version of a bad spirit 1359 00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:24,720 i was raised jewish and i will say uh i 1360 00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:26,880 did within the past year or to actually 1361 00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:29,119 talk to my rabbi about aliens and what 1362 00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:31,119 the what the thoughts are what's inside 1363 00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:32,960 the torah and he came back to me a few 1364 00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:34,559 days later and absolutely said that 1365 00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:36,559 there are aliens inside the bible and 1366 00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:38,960 for us as a human to think that it that 1367 00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:40,960 god couldn't create more than one thing 1368 00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:43,119 in this universe is incredibly selfish 1369 00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,599 of us as a society and i thought that's 1370 00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:47,280 super refreshing coming from somebody 1371 00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:49,520 who's very serious about religion and i 1372 00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:51,920 think it's because he also realizes that 1373 00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:53,839 it's a time where we can't like you have 1374 00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:55,200 to think about that way you can't keep 1375 00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:56,720 putting your stuff into a box or people 1376 00:50:00,069 --> 00:49:58,480 are not going to be subscribing to your 1377 00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,079 stuff anymore 1378 00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:03,119 that's a big i mean i went through 1379 00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:07,520 a strange time in my life where i had to 1380 00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:09,920 i was stuck with i was very christian at 1381 00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:13,359 the time and i was stuck with 1382 00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:15,200 people tell me that because i'm 1383 00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:16,880 christian these things aren't real and 1384 00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:18,720 it's something else but i've experienced 1385 00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:20,640 something totally different where i knew 1386 00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:22,160 it was something different and i was in 1387 00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:24,640 this weird like 1388 00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:31,829 what do i do what do i do 1389 00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:34,640 and at the time i the only thing i knew 1390 00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:36,880 was to just pray on it and i prayed on 1391 00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:38,800 it and i prayed on it and i prayed on it 1392 00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:41,440 and i just was like tell me what is real 1393 00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:43,760 like tell me like show me 1394 00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:46,800 and over time i actually it kind of led 1395 00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:49,200 up to a huge ufo sighting 1396 00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:51,520 and in that moment i realized that both 1397 00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:53,520 things can exist 1398 00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:56,000 and you can still believe in god you can 1399 00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:57,839 believe in jesus and you can believe in 1400 00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:00,240 those miracles but at the same time we 1401 00:51:06,309 --> 00:51:03,119 also i think should be aware 1402 00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:06,319 that people did write those books and 1403 00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:07,920 there were things that were left out of 1404 00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:10,400 those books and who's to say that some 1405 00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:12,880 things were added for more control over 1406 00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,800 the people at that time oh absolutely 1407 00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:16,800 the council of nicaea where they decided 1408 00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,640 what went in and what got left out 1409 00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:21,119 exactly i i'm a big i'm a big uh 1410 00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,359 supporter of the lost books of the bible 1411 00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:25,119 and one of the most interesting things 1412 00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:25,920 is 1413 00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,200 if you want to know why they left some 1414 00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:29,599 of those things out the gospel of thomas 1415 00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:31,119 says there should not be a physical 1416 00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:33,680 church you should worship god outside 1417 00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:36,160 outside absolutely but here's the thing 1418 00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:38,000 if they didn't have churches they 1419 00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:40,000 wouldn't have donations to support them 1420 00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:41,119 no money 1421 00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:44,079 your kindness your generosity thank you 1422 00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:45,040 dorothy 1423 00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:46,480 and also i wanted to mention this 1424 00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,880 because if we if we talk about religion 1425 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:50,640 and and some of the things that have to 1426 00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:52,000 do with angels 1427 00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:54,960 there's a fascinating uh 1428 00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:58,000 article or or uh written work by pope 1429 00:52:03,589 --> 00:51:59,920 john paul ii and it's called the 1430 00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,599 catechist on angels i highly recommend 1431 00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:05,520 that you if you're if you're interested 1432 00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,000 in aliens you got to read this 1433 00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:10,559 because in this it's a pope and i'm 1434 00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,720 fascinated by him because i thought well 1435 00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:14,720 he's got all the secrets of the vatican 1436 00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:16,880 so his rights 1437 00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:19,119 he's got to be on point and in this 1438 00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:21,119 catechist of the angels he says that the 1439 00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:24,559 angels are separate beings from humans 1440 00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:27,520 that god created also 1441 00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:29,200 in his image 1442 00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,240 but different and they have been with us 1443 00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:34,079 throughout all of human history they 1444 00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,040 predate humans they were made first 1445 00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:39,280 and they have always interacted with us 1446 00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:41,680 since the beginning of our species and 1447 00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:42,880 they are 1448 00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:46,160 to to his view a brother species also 1449 00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:48,800 created by god to us 1450 00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:50,400 but there's distinct differences of 1451 00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:52,800 course they're not uh physical they're 1452 00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:53,760 you know 1453 00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:55,839 incorporal or whatever you would the 1454 00:53:00,069 --> 00:52:58,480 term that he used but it's just this 1455 00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:00,079 whole thing that he wrote is so 1456 00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:02,400 fascinating because it does kind of 1457 00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:04,559 relate to what some people could 1458 00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,960 consider interdimensional beings or 1459 00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:08,640 aliens 1460 00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:13,670 it 100 is and i think that a lot of 1461 00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,000 people are very scared and afraid to 1462 00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:18,160 admit that so that's why you don't see a 1463 00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:20,000 lot of uh i think people reading those 1464 00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,520 type of documents from the pope you know 1465 00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:23,280 what i mean because they don't it's 1466 00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:24,800 still a taboo subject when it comes to 1467 00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,920 the religion side of the world 1468 00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:27,119 especially people who are very deep 1469 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:32,230 i don't know man it's i wish more people 1470 00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,680 would be open to 1471 00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:35,599 to that kind of stuff i wish more people 1472 00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:37,119 who were preachers and pastors and 1473 00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,559 rabbis and things like that would go out 1474 00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:40,240 there and start talking about things in 1475 00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:41,200 a more 1476 00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,440 university realm and not so earthly yeah 1477 00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:45,200 some of them are interested but some of 1478 00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:47,200 them are like that's kind of taboo they 1479 00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:48,880 don't really want to get into that 1480 00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:51,920 depends on who you ask i grown up i knew 1481 00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:54,000 some priests that were into demons you 1482 00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:56,240 know which is a strange subject but it's 1483 00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:57,680 interesting that he's a priest and he's 1484 00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:00,720 so i had one growing up that was a 1485 00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:02,480 you know a jesuit and he 1486 00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:04,480 was one of my teachers in high school 1487 00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,720 and he was obsessed with demons and 1488 00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:08,240 demonology 1489 00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:09,920 you know and it was cool because i could 1490 00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:12,319 talk to him about these things and not 1491 00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:13,359 some of the priests if you start 1492 00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:15,040 bringing this stuff up they're like why 1493 00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:17,280 are you asking are you into satan are 1494 00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:21,520 you casting spells you got a ouija board 1495 00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:24,079 you gotta come to confession you know 1496 00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:25,680 they're not into that stuff but he was 1497 00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:28,160 into it he was way into it because he 1498 00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:30,000 believed that that uh 1499 00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,160 you know that the this 1500 00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,720 these demons were you know the rebel 1501 00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:36,480 angels and you know 1502 00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:38,160 were cast out and all of these things 1503 00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:40,240 and he studied each of the demons and 1504 00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,559 the hierarchy of the demons 1505 00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,720 name that is so interesting throughout 1506 00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:46,079 history 1507 00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:47,839 yeah what's the fascination with that 1508 00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:49,359 that would make that would seem a little 1509 00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:50,839 off to 1510 00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:54,319 me yeah we interviewed a catholic priest 1511 00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:56,799 exorcist here that was a trip 1512 00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,760 he's a guy was an actual catholic priest 1513 00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,920 exorcist that had performed exorcisms 1514 00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:03,200 for years 1515 00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:04,240 uh 1516 00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:05,680 yeah and 1517 00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:07,359 what's his name um 1518 00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:12,000 does he have the fifth kind tv um paul 1519 00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:13,200 wallace 1520 00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:14,640 no i don't believe that was his name i 1521 00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:16,319 could look it up but uh he was involved 1522 00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:18,480 in that hell house with zach baggins for 1523 00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:26,150 yeah that guy's creepy and the stuff he 1524 00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:29,040 does is creepy i don't like it 1525 00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:30,000 i don't know 1526 00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:31,839 he this is hotel here 1527 00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,440 his museum here in las vegas and it's 1528 00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:35,040 like 50-something dollars to get in to 1529 00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:37,280 walk around to go see his haunted dolls 1530 00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:40,480 yeah and it's just a bunch of crap 1531 00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:42,559 right now a bunch of crap behind glass 1532 00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:51,190 you never know right i don't like that 1533 00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:52,400 dark stuff 1534 00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:55,359 i'm always trying to conjure the dark 1535 00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:56,960 [\h__\h] up 1536 00:56:02,390 --> 00:55:59,920 i joke but i'm not like actually down 1537 00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:02,400 i had a lot of books on magic and and 1538 00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:03,920 all that kind of stuff growing up and i 1539 00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:05,520 just read them i never did anything 1540 00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:06,799 because i was always afraid that i would 1541 00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:09,760 end up in a horror movie 1542 00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:11,359 right you're like 1543 00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,720 yeah that's why brie won't let me play 1544 00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:14,400 with ouija boards 1545 00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:15,760 really wow 1546 00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:17,119 yeah 1547 00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:18,400 according to catholics those are 1548 00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:19,839 dangerous that's a game i've played with 1549 00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:21,760 them before i've had weird experiences 1550 00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:23,520 with ouija boards before she won't let 1551 00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:25,920 me play with them with her though 1552 00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:27,280 no i don't think she should play with 1553 00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:28,880 them even without me because it'll 1554 00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:31,119 transfer over to me anyway yes bring the 1555 00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:32,880 demons it's gonna bring all that crap 1556 00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:35,200 towards me i don't think so 1557 00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:37,760 uh-uh about a lot here but 1558 00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:40,480 it seems like a lot of show hosts that i 1559 00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:43,040 see they never talk about all the frauds 1560 00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:46,960 fakes and criminals in this 1561 00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:50,000 world of ufos and aliens 1562 00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:51,680 and i'm sure you're aware of some of 1563 00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:52,720 them and 1564 00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:55,119 yeah you know i think that there's a big 1565 00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:57,200 problem here and that is that most 1566 00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:58,240 people aren't even willing to 1567 00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:00,000 acknowledge that there is a problem with 1568 00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:02,160 that and you can't fix a problem until 1569 00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,480 you acknowledge it so i say let's talk 1570 00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:06,720 about these con artists 1571 00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:08,640 let's expose them and let's say you're 1572 00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:10,720 not welcome here because you got caught 1573 00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:13,040 selling fake stories right here here's 1574 00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:14,400 the thing though with i think a lot of 1575 00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,000 the people who are in the society and 1576 00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,160 i'm not on anybody's side or against 1577 00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:20,240 anybody when it comes to that stuff what 1578 00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,839 we always tell people is if there's a 1579 00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:23,680 person in ufology and they are saying 1580 00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:25,359 that they are the proprietor of 1581 00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:27,040 information and they want to be the only 1582 00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:29,599 person to give it to you red flag 1583 00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:31,119 right that's like very like i am a 1584 00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:32,720 leader and i can tell you what it is 1585 00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:34,720 immediately good corey good does that 1586 00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,160 mean 1587 00:57:39,910 --> 00:57:38,400 i know yeah the only i know the 1588 00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,920 information and only i can tell it to 1589 00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:41,280 you and it's behind this pay wall and 1590 00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,400 this is where it is so those kind of 1591 00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:44,720 people immediately red flag out but 1592 00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,799 there's a lot of people out there who i 1593 00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:48,160 think are just like at the end of the 1594 00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:50,480 day we're all human beings right and 1595 00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:52,640 there's people who have some good 1596 00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:54,720 information but unfortunately the 1597 00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:56,640 vehicle of that information is not the 1598 00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:58,480 greatest in the world so 1599 00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:00,720 i don't like to fault a lot of the 1600 00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:04,400 people who are in um the the subject for 1601 00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,920 doing whatever it is they do because i 1602 00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:07,440 think a lot of people regardless if i 1603 00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:09,520 like them personally or not sometimes 1604 00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:11,680 they have good information regardless of 1605 00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:13,440 their personal politics or who they are 1606 00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:15,440 as a person you know what i mean people 1607 00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:18,559 also change like david wilcock changed a 1608 00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:22,000 lot i think david wilcox started off as 1609 00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,119 someone that didn't have good 1610 00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:25,599 information he was genuine 1611 00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:26,880 he really meant 1612 00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:27,760 and then 1613 00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:30,480 it is i think it's a it's a fame thing 1614 00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:31,280 and 1615 00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,680 i don't even know like what went wrong 1616 00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:35,520 there maybe he was like cloned and 1617 00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,599 possessed or something but he took a 1618 00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,760 hard left turn new theory you heard it 1619 00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:41,520 here first david wilcock got replaced 1620 00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:43,520 with a clone and that's why he's out 1621 00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:46,160 there scamming everybody because he 1622 00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:48,319 wasn't like that for the longest time 1623 00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:51,599 like i loved his books i was about him 1624 00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:54,559 he seemed down to earth genuine 1625 00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:56,880 he didn't have as big of an ego when all 1626 00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:58,880 of a sudden the ego just went 1627 00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,960 it was it turned into a monster and 1628 00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:02,319 that's what i mean that's what i'm i 1629 00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:04,319 mean the vehicle that is giving us this 1630 00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:05,920 information a lot of times it's because 1631 00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:07,839 we're human and our egos get in the way 1632 00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:09,920 so it like it sucks that that gets in 1633 00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:12,079 the way of sometimes good information 1634 00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:13,680 that's getting out there and it gets 1635 00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,079 misconstrued and gets wrapped up in this 1636 00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,400 weird sometimes culty [\h__\h] and then 1637 00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:20,319 and then we have people again looking 1638 00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:21,680 down on the things that we're looking 1639 00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:22,640 into in the subject that we're 1640 00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:24,079 researching because [\h__\h] like that 1641 00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:25,119 exists 1642 00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:27,920 yeah and then also i do realize 1643 00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:29,839 once in a while i've said 1644 00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:32,640 i have to soften my tone because 1645 00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:34,319 i don't care if somebody makes a mistake 1646 00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:36,160 and then they admit it and they say i 1647 00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:38,720 was misled by this witness or you know 1648 00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:40,400 whatever but when you got people that 1649 00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:42,400 are like pretty much caught selling 1650 00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,559 three completely fake stories over the 1651 00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:46,400 years it's like how many times am i 1652 00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:48,559 going to give you you know so i'm all 1653 00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:50,480 for three strikes rule you could do 1654 00:59:54,549 --> 00:59:52,720 three hoaxes three fake stories but then 1655 00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:54,559 you're done you're right we're done but 1656 00:59:59,589 --> 00:59:57,359 i think part of it though 1657 01:00:01,589 --> 00:59:59,599 for me and it was done part part of it 1658 01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:01,599 too though is like we also keep giving 1659 01:00:05,109 --> 01:00:03,200 attention to these people by continuing 1660 01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:05,119 to talk about them regardless of whether 1661 01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:06,720 or not we're talking about positively or 1662 01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:10,000 negatively about them it's creating more 1663 01:00:13,829 --> 01:00:12,160 buzz about them so sometimes i think 1664 01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,839 it's better to just not mention some of 1665 01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:15,119 these people because eventually they're 1666 01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:16,720 going to fade away over time and i do 1667 01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:18,400 feel bad that a lot of people fall into 1668 01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:20,799 their traps but like we can't 1669 01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:21,680 we can't 1670 01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:24,480 though like at the end of the day if 1671 01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:25,920 you're a person who's susceptible to 1672 01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:27,520 that kind of [\h__\h] you got some work to 1673 01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:29,280 do i agree with you 1674 01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:32,000 every time i say i say if i got a guy 1675 01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,319 that's a famous ufo celebrity and i've 1676 01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:36,240 got him dead to rights interviewing a 1677 01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:37,599 dead man 1678 01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:40,559 to sell a story the guy died five years 1679 01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:42,400 before you interviewed them 1680 01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:43,200 so 1681 01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:45,359 come on okay wait who is this 1682 01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:47,440 this is richard dolan and jeremy corbell 1683 01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:49,359 they interviewed this cia deathbed 1684 01:00:52,549 --> 01:00:50,960 confession video 1685 01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:52,559 they made this video they sold that 1686 01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:56,079 story and little hell is already dead it 1687 01:01:01,109 --> 01:00:58,319 was already dead five years prior to the 1688 01:01:02,630 --> 01:01:01,119 interview they did okay 1689 01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:02,640 and then they 1690 01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:07,680 no he died in 2008 they did the 1691 01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:09,520 interview in 2014 1692 01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:12,000 so somebody has to explain to me and 1693 01:01:14,950 --> 01:01:13,440 richard dolan said that he would be 1694 01:01:17,109 --> 01:01:14,960 making a statement on this six months 1695 01:01:18,789 --> 01:01:17,119 ago and he's never he's never come and 1696 01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:18,799 said this is what happened and i think 1697 01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:20,480 he has a responsibility to he made lots 1698 01:01:25,510 --> 01:01:22,559 of money selling that story it got 1699 01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:25,520 millions of views him and corbell and 1700 01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:27,280 it's completely fake because the guy 1701 01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:29,599 died and it's fake for more reasons than 1702 01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:32,240 that but you know i think that's not 1703 01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:33,760 fair 1704 01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:35,359 i think that richard dolan is a very 1705 01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:38,079 handsome man 1706 01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:40,640 jamie jamie is not is not objective here 1707 01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:43,520 because she wants to bang dolan 1708 01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:45,839 it's important that jamie wants to bang 1709 01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:47,760 richard dolan i i will say i think that 1710 01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:49,200 richard dolan is the most attractive man 1711 01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:51,200 in the ufo field right now so that's i 1712 01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:53,680 give him that that tip of my hat so he 1713 01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:56,160 is you have daddy issues come on no we 1714 01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:57,920 call him daddy dolan we call him daddy 1715 01:02:03,430 --> 01:02:00,960 dolan that's our nickname for him 1716 01:02:05,349 --> 01:02:03,440 i think jb has daddy issues of course i 1717 01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:05,359 do who doesn't who doesn't have daddy 1718 01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:07,119 who doesn't have them these days jesus 1719 01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:09,839 come on now all of us do 1720 01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:12,160 that you remember no 1721 01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:14,640 like i feel like this could happen to 1722 01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:16,880 anyone and that kind of scares me too 1723 01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:18,799 maybe like once you reach a certain 1724 01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:21,119 level in the field and people come to 1725 01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:22,319 you all the time and you think that 1726 01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:24,000 you're vetting them out and then it's 1727 01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:25,680 like is it too late to back out you 1728 01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:27,839 already made a big deal out of it 1729 01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:29,760 so and you need something to sell that's 1730 01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:30,960 the other thing it's financially 1731 01:02:34,789 --> 01:02:33,200 motivated they need they he needs to 1732 01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:34,799 constantly come up with new stories to 1733 01:02:38,789 --> 01:02:37,359 sell to keep the ball rolling you know 1734 01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:38,799 new books 1735 01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:40,720 but that's what then we get into the 1736 01:02:45,190 --> 01:02:43,680 bigger picture of what is ufo attainment 1737 01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:45,200 and difference between ufo attainment 1738 01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:47,280 and ufo education right and there's a 1739 01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:49,920 big divide between that and i think that 1740 01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:51,520 something that i've said a lot of is 1741 01:02:54,549 --> 01:02:53,440 what this field needs is a lot of new 1742 01:02:57,109 --> 01:02:54,559 faces 1743 01:02:59,589 --> 01:02:57,119 specifically not old white men talking 1744 01:03:01,510 --> 01:02:59,599 about anyway that's why we need you guys 1745 01:03:03,029 --> 01:03:01,520 we need new perspectives and we need new 1746 01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:03,039 people talking about it because as much 1747 01:03:06,710 --> 01:03:04,880 as i love daddy dolan 1748 01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:06,720 danny dolan's not giving me a lot of new 1749 01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:08,640 information these days right and i would 1750 01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:11,440 love if just new real [\h__\h] came out and 1751 01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:12,960 i just don't i don't see a lot of the 1752 01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:14,319 old white folks giving us that 1753 01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:16,799 information these days so i welcome i 1754 01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:18,960 welcome new new people coming out new 1755 01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:20,559 whistleblowers who are coming out those 1756 01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:26,309 a lot of the same information 1757 01:03:29,109 --> 01:03:27,520 and 1758 01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:29,119 you know but 1759 01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:32,240 i don't really know who could enter 1760 01:03:38,069 --> 01:03:35,280 the field other than who's already here 1761 01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:38,079 now the little people the the three of 1762 01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:39,920 us kind of you know i don't and i think 1763 01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:41,440 that's the thing though it's not about 1764 01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:43,920 one person getting super big and taking 1765 01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:46,400 over the ufo world it's a bunch of all 1766 01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:48,720 of us small group together who are 1767 01:03:52,069 --> 01:03:50,799 changing the course of the ufo topic i 1768 01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:52,079 think that what we need to do is we need 1769 01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:54,799 to stop idolizing people and and turning 1770 01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:56,240 people into celebrities and that will 1771 01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:58,480 solve a lot of problems in this field 1772 01:04:01,910 --> 01:04:00,160 there is a huge hunger for this 1773 01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:01,920 information and people want so 1774 01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:04,400 desperately for it to be true and real 1775 01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:06,640 stories you know we've got people out 1776 01:04:10,309 --> 01:04:08,640 there using child molesters as sources 1777 01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:10,319 for their alien stories we've got people 1778 01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:12,960 out there using murderers in prison 1779 01:04:16,390 --> 01:04:14,559 saying that they're teleporting out of 1780 01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:16,400 prison and people eat this stuff up and 1781 01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:18,000 i can't believe the views they get i'm 1782 01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:19,920 like are you kidding me there's a wait 1783 01:04:24,230 --> 01:04:22,079 is it in prison you know like 1784 01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:24,240 no no hold on the chat is the chat is 1785 01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:25,520 hating that i said old white people 1786 01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:26,880 listen i'm not hating on old white 1787 01:04:30,309 --> 01:04:28,720 people i'm just saying we've had that 1788 01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:30,319 for a long time there's nothing wrong 1789 01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:32,000 with a little bit of diversity we've had 1790 01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:33,440 nothing but old white people i'm not 1791 01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:35,440 here 1792 01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:37,039 we've had that for a long time it's just 1793 01:04:40,630 --> 01:04:38,640 time for some different perspectives i'd 1794 01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:40,640 love to just more people to come out and 1795 01:04:43,510 --> 01:04:41,920 be talking about this instead of the 1796 01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:43,520 same 10 people over and over again 1797 01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:45,440 that's all yeah yeah that's really the 1798 01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:47,520 point if you notice there is a cast of 1799 01:04:51,670 --> 01:04:49,440 characters that are in 1800 01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:51,680 so many different documentaries and it's 1801 01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:54,400 all the same 1802 01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:55,440 it's like you're watching the same 1803 01:04:59,029 --> 01:04:57,440 documentary over and over and over or 1804 01:05:00,390 --> 01:04:59,039 the same show over and over and over 1805 01:05:02,390 --> 01:05:00,400 again especially because again they talk 1806 01:05:03,510 --> 01:05:02,400 about the same topics over and over and 1807 01:05:06,829 --> 01:05:03,520 over again that's what i'm saying i want 1808 01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:06,839 to hear more new fresh stuff 1809 01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:10,400 exactly exactly it's again it's really 1810 01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:12,000 not about the white people i feel like a 1811 01:05:15,990 --> 01:05:13,440 lot of people are really stuck i'm not 1812 01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:16,000 so upset about it it's really not it's 1813 01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:18,960 just that it's true you i mean you can't 1814 01:05:23,990 --> 01:05:20,960 say that it's not true that when you 1815 01:05:26,309 --> 01:05:24,000 think of the typical lineup 1816 01:05:27,990 --> 01:05:26,319 for ufologists yeah that's just what it 1817 01:05:29,029 --> 01:05:28,000 looks like that's what it is it's what 1818 01:05:31,109 --> 01:05:29,039 it is 1819 01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:31,119 you need young people too how about that 1820 01:05:33,750 --> 01:05:32,160 how about yeah 1821 01:05:36,549 --> 01:05:33,760 i'm all for that 1822 01:05:37,589 --> 01:05:36,559 younger people i want to see i want to 1823 01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:37,599 see that 1824 01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:38,880 you know i kind of feel like some of 1825 01:05:43,750 --> 01:05:40,240 these people it's like you've had a nice 1826 01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:43,760 run for 20 or 25 years like move aside 1827 01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:45,599 it's time for other people because there 1828 01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:47,280 are some people and i'm not i'm not 1829 01:05:51,190 --> 01:05:49,200 talking about me but i have seen some 1830 01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:51,200 guys that are doing some amazing 1831 01:05:55,430 --> 01:05:53,280 incredible research and work 1832 01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:55,440 into this topic and they get almost no 1833 01:05:58,630 --> 01:05:57,520 attention no and i and i agree with you 1834 01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:58,640 in that sense i think that there's 1835 01:06:01,670 --> 01:05:59,760 people who have been out there for a 1836 01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:01,680 long time and i think that there's a 1837 01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:03,440 space and an opportunity for new people 1838 01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:04,720 who are doing new and different things 1839 01:06:07,910 --> 01:06:06,240 to come forward especially with a lot of 1840 01:06:09,589 --> 01:06:07,920 the way that they're scientifically 1841 01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:09,599 researching the topic right now and a 1842 01:06:12,309 --> 01:06:11,119 lot of these like new companies and 1843 01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:12,319 groups that are forming who are really 1844 01:06:15,990 --> 01:06:14,559 looking into investigating ufos i would 1845 01:06:17,829 --> 01:06:16,000 like to see some of those companies and 1846 01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:17,839 groups be quote unquote famous and 1847 01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:20,799 celebrities instead of individual people 1848 01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:22,240 yeah even 1849 01:06:25,990 --> 01:06:24,640 you know it's hard like 1850 01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:26,000 as much as i just said i wish that there 1851 01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:28,160 were new people sometimes 1852 01:06:31,430 --> 01:06:30,000 the new people that we get i still don't 1853 01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:31,440 like i can't 1854 01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:33,440 i agree with you on that yeah i don't 1855 01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:35,039 know 1856 01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:38,400 anybody else's show because i have 1857 01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:41,119 enough of my own problems exactly yeah 1858 01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:43,200 but i i do like to look at other shows 1859 01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:44,160 and go 1860 01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:45,680 what are they doing right what are they 1861 01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:47,680 doing that i disagree with or whatever 1862 01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:49,200 and there are some shows that i call it 1863 01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:50,880 the ufo circle jerk they just have these 1864 01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:53,839 people on that are extremely problematic 1865 01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:55,440 and they just let them talk and they 1866 01:07:01,510 --> 01:06:58,559 don't call them on their past fake 1867 01:07:03,349 --> 01:07:01,520 stuff that they were selling or whatever 1868 01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:03,359 and it seems like there is a game out 1869 01:07:07,349 --> 01:07:05,039 there and for people that don't know it 1870 01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:07,359 it's the circle jerk game there there 1871 01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:08,880 are there are these some of these ufo 1872 01:07:12,069 --> 01:07:10,960 celebrities that just will only do the 1873 01:07:14,549 --> 01:07:12,079 shows where they know they're going to 1874 01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:14,559 get the softball interview they won't go 1875 01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:17,200 to some place like alien scientist or me 1876 01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:18,880 because they know that we're going to 1877 01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:21,200 press them you know 1878 01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:22,720 see but that's but that's a bigger 1879 01:07:26,470 --> 01:07:24,400 problem with inside of ufology in 1880 01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:26,480 general then again the problem is you're 1881 01:07:30,950 --> 01:07:28,960 idolizing these people and assuming that 1882 01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:30,960 they're supposed to answer to you guys 1883 01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:33,119 in some way right and as a perfect 1884 01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:34,720 because they're putting their selves out 1885 01:07:38,710 --> 01:07:37,119 there as a person you're assuming that 1886 01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:38,720 they have to answer to you you know what 1887 01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:39,920 i mean oh yeah they don't have any 1888 01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:41,280 responsibility 1889 01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:42,720 yeah and i'm not saying it's right or 1890 01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:44,480 wrong but like we just assume that these 1891 01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:45,839 people are out here to answer us and 1892 01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:47,200 they're just at the end of the day human 1893 01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,640 beings you know 1894 01:07:52,710 --> 01:07:50,400 yeah you're right i'll think about what 1895 01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:52,720 you've said i'm trying to be kinder and 1896 01:07:56,150 --> 01:07:54,400 gentler to some people you know what 1897 01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:56,160 don't get me wrong me and brie really 1898 01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:58,000 make fun of this subject although we are 1899 01:08:01,430 --> 01:07:59,760 very diehard believers we crack a lot of 1900 01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:01,440 jokes we poke fun at people but one 1901 01:08:06,390 --> 01:08:02,240 thing 1902 01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:06,400 try to be super respectful and open to 1903 01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:08,240 everybody's ideas and opinions 1904 01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:10,160 regardless of what it is and we're not 1905 01:08:14,069 --> 01:08:12,160 somebody to like trash on people at the 1906 01:08:16,149 --> 01:08:14,079 end of the day you know like as much as 1907 01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,159 we joke and make fun of like everybody's 1908 01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:18,640 entitled to their own weird opinions 1909 01:08:22,829 --> 01:08:20,400 you guys are you guys are much more 1910 01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:22,839 diplomatic well i just i truly believe 1911 01:08:25,749 --> 01:08:25,120 that you're very crazy i truly respect 1912 01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:25,759 that 1913 01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:27,279 just i want to live in a world with a 1914 01:08:30,309 --> 01:08:29,199 lot more niceness and positivity because 1915 01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:30,319 i think we've had enough hate and 1916 01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:32,319 [\h__\h] and tearing this community 1917 01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:33,520 apart 1918 01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:34,560 you know 1919 01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:36,400 sometimes there's people 1920 01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:39,199 like michael horn that you have to say 1921 01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:42,000 shut up michael horn you dummy right you 1922 01:08:51,269 --> 01:08:49,910 but you know what and that's you you 1923 01:08:53,110 --> 01:08:51,279 learn [\h__\h] along the way and that's what 1924 01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:53,120 i mean that's and we try to be i guess 1925 01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:55,920 you would say diplomatic i just i i like 1926 01:09:00,390 --> 01:08:58,000 cheering everybody's side the victim of 1927 01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:00,400 a crazy ufo cult just like me because 1928 01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,640 they disappeared 1929 01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:04,560 yeah it's not even that we disagreed 1930 01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:06,080 it's like the thing is is that he wanted 1931 01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:07,839 to come on the show and trash a bunch of 1932 01:09:11,990 --> 01:09:10,159 people and i was just we that's not what 1933 01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:12,000 we're into and what we do we wanted to 1934 01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:13,839 talk about the story so we left all of 1935 01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:15,279 that in and we edited it we have 1936 01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:17,759 editorial rights yeah and yeah it was 1937 01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,120 our show and so it's more than that 1938 01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:23,040 though it's so much more than that we 1939 01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:26,400 had done an episode on billy meyer 1940 01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:28,960 and we tried to present everything that 1941 01:09:33,110 --> 01:09:31,120 we had learned and we both kind of came 1942 01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:33,120 to the conclusion that he was full of 1943 01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:35,679 [\h__\h] and so 1944 01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:38,880 we experienced michael come on 1945 01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:40,239 to try 1946 01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:43,839 to show us evidence that he isn't full 1947 01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:45,679 of [\h__\h] so that's what the episode was 1948 01:09:50,470 --> 01:09:47,600 supposed to be about he was supposed to 1949 01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:50,480 be there to prove his case no not on 1950 01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:51,759 other people 1951 01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:54,000 what are you doing here we invited you 1952 01:09:58,870 --> 01:09:54,640 to 1953 01:10:00,229 --> 01:09:58,880 [\h__\h] and he couldn't do it he couldn't 1954 01:10:01,990 --> 01:10:00,239 do that he just wanted to talk [\h__\h] 1955 01:10:04,149 --> 01:10:02,000 about people so it just showed us if 1956 01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:04,159 they don't believe he was there 1957 01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:05,920 everybody that ever said and that's what 1958 01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:08,159 he does he targets anybody that says the 1959 01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,719 story is not true and real but a big 1960 01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:12,800 reason why nobody wants to investigate 1961 01:10:16,630 --> 01:10:14,640 that story or even look into it is 1962 01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:16,640 because he's this weird gatekeeper who 1963 01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:19,600 acts like that that's exactly why nobody 1964 01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:21,199 nobody wants to look into the subject or 1965 01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:22,400 he gets mad because he's like nobody 1966 01:10:26,149 --> 01:10:24,480 wants me on my show nobody wants you on 1967 01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:26,159 the show it's not about the billy meyer 1968 01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:28,480 story it's you as a human being i gotta 1969 01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:30,239 say i 1970 01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:33,199 i saw that those pictures in a 1971 01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:35,120 general book on ufos it wasn't about 1972 01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:36,800 billy meyer but they had a few of the 1973 01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:38,800 billy meyer pictures and i loved those i 1974 01:10:42,550 --> 01:10:40,800 thought wow this is cool 1975 01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:42,560 but even as a child i was like yeah it 1976 01:10:44,950 --> 01:10:43,679 looks like 1977 01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:44,960 glued together 1978 01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:46,960 stuff on a string and then i tried as a 1979 01:10:49,189 --> 01:10:47,760 child 1980 01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:49,199 something like that and i could you 1981 01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:51,360 could it's not hard to do you know 1982 01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:54,800 somebody on the internet even did it uh 1983 01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:56,640 there's a guy on the internet who did 1984 01:11:01,510 --> 01:10:58,480 all this debunking and he built the 1985 01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:01,520 models hung the strings and filmed it 1986 01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:04,000 all with one arm just to prove 1987 01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:05,440 because that's an argument that's been 1988 01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:09,830 so 1989 01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:14,159 he did it all with one arm and he filmed 1990 01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:16,000 himself doing it so there's no there's 1991 01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:18,000 no way to argue with that 1992 01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:21,280 mikey horn is crazy and uh you know he 1993 01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:22,800 they're real big one like saying that 1994 01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:24,400 billy meyer predicted all this stuff but 1995 01:11:27,669 --> 01:11:26,159 he could never show me copyrights or 1996 01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,679 proof that he predicted it before the 1997 01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:30,000 events it's it always seems to be after 1998 01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,120 the events 1999 01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:33,920 it's like oh this happened and suddenly 2000 01:11:38,229 --> 01:11:36,080 they dig out some book that they say was 2001 01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:38,239 published 20 years prior that he they're 2002 01:11:42,950 --> 01:11:40,400 like here you go nobody else had that 2003 01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:42,960 book just then you know and it's vague 2004 01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:44,719 it's all super big and they're just 2005 01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:46,480 saying that's what they're talking about 2006 01:11:50,470 --> 01:11:48,480 but it could be about a million things 2007 01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:50,480 mm-hmm and so it's not like 2008 01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:52,400 my wife says my next old white guy is 2009 01:11:56,149 --> 01:11:54,480 going to be a sugar daddy so thanks for 2010 01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:56,159 that 2011 01:12:00,229 --> 01:11:57,920 i'm surprised she's listening she never 2012 01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:00,239 listens to the show she must be born 2013 01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:05,270 yeah hello hello 2014 01:12:09,669 --> 01:12:07,120 yeah she's uh she's interesting in that 2015 01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:09,679 she has zero interest in any of this she 2016 01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:11,920 just calls okay you know what is you 2017 01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:13,040 know what's her while she'll say like 2018 01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:14,320 who's on the show tonight and i try to 2019 01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:15,520 explain it to her and she's like she's 2020 01:12:20,310 --> 01:12:18,000 like so uh okay 2021 01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:21,910 my husband's the same way pretty much 2022 01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:24,080 he's a believer but yeah he's just like 2023 01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:26,080 brandon thank you very much brandon 2024 01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:27,280 thank you 2025 01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:30,480 there 2026 01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:33,120 link in the description to their channel 2027 01:12:36,229 --> 01:12:34,560 and i'm gonna be 2028 01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,239 sharing that as much as i can we want to 2029 01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:38,640 help them get to the magic thank you 2030 01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:40,400 everybody deserves a couple of bucks for 2031 01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:42,239 all the hard they put a lot of hard work 2032 01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:44,080 time talent and dedication into what 2033 01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:44,960 they do 2034 01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:46,080 we do 2035 01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:47,920 i will say though we're new to the new 2036 01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:49,199 the youtube world we've been doing our 2037 01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:50,800 audio podcast we're going on our fifth 2038 01:12:54,310 --> 01:12:52,640 year now and we've been living in audio 2039 01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:54,320 land for a long time and we recently 2040 01:12:57,910 --> 01:12:56,080 within the last about six months been 2041 01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:57,920 kind of transitioning over into this 2042 01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:59,440 whole youtube world so it's kind of a 2043 01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:01,280 journey for us so you guys are if you 2044 01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:02,880 subscribe you're along for the journey 2045 01:13:05,910 --> 01:13:04,080 for what the hell our channel is going 2046 01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:05,920 to be it's just uh ever evolving and 2047 01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:06,960 changing 2048 01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:09,199 and it's weird to be like new kids i 2049 01:13:13,669 --> 01:13:11,440 feel like 2050 01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:13,679 they all use paypal not super chats 2051 01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:15,600 there's paypal donate links in the about 2052 01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:17,840 section and we'll call those out later 2053 01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,440 if anybody makes a paypal donation be 2054 01:13:22,149 --> 01:13:21,120 sure to include your chat room user id 2055 01:13:24,149 --> 01:13:22,159 because you don't want me calling out 2056 01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:24,159 your real name and add a line and 2057 01:13:27,189 --> 01:13:26,159 whatever you want me to share 2058 01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:27,199 um 2059 01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:28,560 you know 2060 01:13:32,229 --> 01:13:30,239 so far people have been very nice i'll 2061 01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:32,239 say anything they want though so so far 2062 01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:34,719 nobody said like i love to suck big 2063 01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:36,800 dicks or anything like that do people do 2064 01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:38,320 that love that 2065 01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:39,920 i would like to read it you can make me 2066 01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:41,920 say anything you want i'll read it right 2067 01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:43,199 oh 2068 01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:44,159 okay 2069 01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:45,280 i'm gonna do that next time i want you 2070 01:13:48,550 --> 01:13:47,679 to plug something for me 2071 01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:48,560 yeah 2072 01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:52,080 you guys i know that i helped amy get 2073 01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:53,840 over the hump and that was cool that we 2074 01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:56,400 could help her you know you guys uh i 2075 01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:58,000 don't i don't remember how many more you 2076 01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:59,040 need but 2077 01:14:02,630 --> 01:14:00,800 oh my god 2078 01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:02,640 i think a million i think right now 2079 01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:04,719 we're almost at 400 subscribers so i 2080 01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:05,840 think 2081 01:14:09,189 --> 01:14:07,440 more so if you guys 2082 01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:09,199 if you guys could go and make like 20 2083 01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:11,920 accounts each and just subscribe can't 2084 01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:21,830 in siberia yeah there's 75 people 2085 01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:23,520 watching us right now so even if half of 2086 01:14:25,910 --> 01:14:24,719 you went over there and clicked that 2087 01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:25,920 subscribe button it would really help 2088 01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:28,320 them out get them they're not going to 2089 01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:30,320 they're upset still about the [\h__\h] 2090 01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:32,000 white comment 2091 01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:34,320 david jamie we had to insult the old 2092 01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:35,760 white guy you know what's funny is out 2093 01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:37,199 of all the things that i could get in 2094 01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:38,800 trouble for it's saying [\h__\h] white 2095 01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:48,149 you got a good point there it's true 2096 01:14:51,669 --> 01:14:49,840 it's a bunch of old white guys in this 2097 01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:51,679 thing and you know it's i'm all for 2098 01:14:56,229 --> 01:14:54,400 diversity but you know what i believe i 2099 01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:56,239 really truly believe that i'm all for 2100 01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:57,440 diversity but 2101 01:15:00,630 --> 01:14:58,800 people should get there on their own 2102 01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:00,640 merit i don't care what your skin color 2103 01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:02,320 is i don't care what your sex is i 2104 01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:04,000 really care 2105 01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:06,080 i respect good work and i see people out 2106 01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:08,400 there i could care less if they're white 2107 01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,679 black puerto rican same whatever 2108 01:15:15,350 --> 01:15:13,679 woman man uh we had the coochie 2109 01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:15,360 controversy here with kelly i don't know 2110 01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:17,840 if you remember that no remember 2111 01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:20,320 kelly people were accusing them of of 2112 01:15:24,550 --> 01:15:22,400 using their breasts or something yeah 2113 01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:24,560 some yeah some channel 2114 01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:26,400 she went off she was like why just 2115 01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:28,400 because i have a coochie i can't do this 2116 01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:30,719 i can't talk about ufos if somebody was 2117 01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:32,560 like it's so interesting that women in 2118 01:15:36,149 --> 01:15:34,000 ufology are just shaking their tits 2119 01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:36,159 around on their youtube channel and then 2120 01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:38,000 yeah she just like went off she lit up 2121 01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:40,320 that [\h__\h] 2122 01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:41,600 if we want to listen if we want to show 2123 01:15:45,189 --> 01:15:43,120 our tits and talk about [\h__\h] aliens 2124 01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:45,199 who [\h__\h] cares i'm sorry i'm saying 2125 01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:46,640 the f word a lot so one thing i was 2126 01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:47,440 saying 2127 01:16:02,310 --> 01:15:50,080 to do you know you're gonna cost me 27 2128 01:16:05,510 --> 01:16:04,149 randall really dislikes me and i it's 2129 01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:05,520 all right randall i love you i'll pray 2130 01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:07,120 for you 2131 01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:09,440 i don't think you dislike no uh 2132 01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:11,679 the guy who was making those the guy who 2133 01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:14,080 was making those accusations and nasty 2134 01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,480 he then he then decided to make a hit 2135 01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:18,560 piece on me because i was supportive of 2136 01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:20,640 women 2137 01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:23,520 and he said that uh he said in in his 2138 01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:25,199 hit piece video that people threatened 2139 01:16:29,510 --> 01:16:27,440 his mother that had cancer and that he 2140 01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:29,520 had to make police reports and i said 2141 01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:31,360 well hey i apologize you know send me a 2142 01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:33,360 copy of the police reports and what is 2143 01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:35,360 happening with you give me your mom's 2144 01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:36,880 number because i was supporting women in 2145 01:16:40,870 --> 01:16:38,960 ufology and i said hey just because you 2146 01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:40,880 know we should support women in ufology 2147 01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:42,719 yeah you know they attacked me because 2148 01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:45,360 you started it but yeah that's not your 2149 01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:47,520 fault he literally he literally asked 2150 01:16:51,510 --> 01:16:50,000 for the attention this guy claimed that 2151 01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:51,520 all those women went and threatened his 2152 01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:53,600 mother who had cancer and that he had to 2153 01:16:58,149 --> 01:16:56,080 make police reports so i called him it 2154 01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:58,159 was a bluff i said 2155 01:17:02,070 --> 01:17:00,159 uh give me your mother's number i want 2156 01:17:03,990 --> 01:17:02,080 to call her and talk to her about what 2157 01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:04,000 happened and apologize then yeah and 2158 01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:05,840 hang out let me he wouldn't 2159 01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:08,320 talk to her and then i said well give me 2160 01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:10,239 the police reports and i'll i'll show 2161 01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:11,920 them on my show and i'll apologize to 2162 01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:13,679 you he wouldn't give me those then i 2163 01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:16,159 called his local i got his address i 2164 01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:18,080 called his local police district there 2165 01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:20,400 was no police reports of harassment 2166 01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:22,880 he just loved it all right investigators 2167 01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:24,800 because he looked like a dummy because 2168 01:17:28,709 --> 01:17:26,800 he didn't attack these women for no 2169 01:17:30,790 --> 01:17:28,719 reason well the thing is i so i looked 2170 01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:30,800 at his account too patrick and with the 2171 01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:32,880 kind of ah thank you patrick i 2172 01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:34,960 appreciate that 2173 01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:37,120 i appreciate it 2174 01:17:40,630 --> 01:17:39,840 i know jesus ten bucks uh i think 2175 01:17:44,110 --> 01:17:40,640 some 2176 01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:44,120 people just get 2177 01:17:48,070 --> 01:17:47,280 confused when they're 2178 01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:48,080 like 2179 01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:49,840 so i looked at his channel and he is 2180 01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:52,159 somebody who is really really into 2181 01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:53,920 trying to start [\h__\h] with people because 2182 01:17:57,430 --> 01:17:56,080 that's how he gets attention right so i 2183 01:17:59,030 --> 01:17:57,440 think that at the end of the day you 2184 01:18:00,550 --> 01:17:59,040 can't look at what it is he's saying but 2185 01:18:02,630 --> 01:18:00,560 look about the context of what his 2186 01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:02,640 channel channel is trying to like show 2187 01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:04,560 out to the world and he's purposely just 2188 01:18:07,030 --> 01:18:05,760 trying to pick fights with people so 2189 01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:07,040 people talk about him so he stays 2190 01:18:14,550 --> 01:18:09,600 irrelevant drama clicks exactly it's 2191 01:18:17,750 --> 01:18:15,830 and that's the thing though it does 2192 01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:17,760 because people are we live in a society 2193 01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:19,600 where they love drama and they love like 2194 01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:22,080 the the whole reality tv of [\h__\h] so 2195 01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:24,000 100 people are gonna go out there and go 2196 01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:25,520 and look into it and subscribe it and 2197 01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:26,800 we're just perpetuating that by 2198 01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:28,400 continuing about talking about it you 2199 01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:29,280 know what i mean because it's going to 2200 01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:30,960 make people want to go and click and 2201 01:18:33,990 --> 01:18:32,320 watch that video and see what he said 2202 01:18:35,430 --> 01:18:34,000 about you oh i've never i never talked 2203 01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:35,440 about it because i didn't want to drive 2204 01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:36,719 traffic to it you don't want to drive 2205 01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:37,679 traffic to them because there's no point 2206 01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:42,709 so if there had been a much bigger 2207 01:18:46,229 --> 01:18:44,560 channel than me that did a hit piece 2208 01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:46,239 yeah then he did it he did a separate 2209 01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:48,320 hit piece on me before 2210 01:18:51,430 --> 01:18:50,000 and i made him take it down because he 2211 01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:51,440 made all these factually inaccurate 2212 01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:53,120 statements and i said do you know what 2213 01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:55,199 slander is bro you said all this as a 2214 01:18:58,790 --> 01:18:56,800 statement of fact you don't have 2215 01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:58,800 evidence to support anything oh he said 2216 01:19:03,430 --> 01:19:00,719 that i took advantage of a mentally ill 2217 01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:03,440 woman in the form of anjali and i said 2218 01:19:06,550 --> 01:19:04,960 she said right on the show she's not 2219 01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:06,560 mentally ill 2220 01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:08,080 you don't have any proof she's mentally 2221 01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:09,360 ill and you made that a statement of 2222 01:19:12,229 --> 01:19:10,960 fact you have to take the video down and 2223 01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:12,239 he was like what i'm not taking the 2224 01:19:15,750 --> 01:19:14,080 video down uh 2225 01:19:18,070 --> 01:19:15,760 20 minutes later he took the video down 2226 01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:18,080 because he knew he was wrong you know i 2227 01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,880 have a question for you what is your top 2228 01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:22,719 um sketch 2229 01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:24,640 ufologists out there 2230 01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:27,360 since you do a good research 2231 01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:29,199 yeah write them down like what's your 2232 01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:31,040 top my channel 2233 01:19:34,790 --> 01:19:32,400 stay away from 2234 01:19:36,870 --> 01:19:34,800 my top two favorites are corey good and 2235 01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:36,880 and david wilcock i think they have zero 2236 01:19:41,830 --> 01:19:39,040 value to anything that they do and i've 2237 01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:41,840 caught them in so many scams and dirty 2238 01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:42,960 dealings 2239 01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:45,760 that you just know like these people are 2240 01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:47,280 these are not people that you should 2241 01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:49,280 listen to because they're all about the 2242 01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:51,520 money and they all their information 2243 01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:54,080 turns out to be fake they use fake 2244 01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:56,560 sources they use fake insiders they 2245 01:20:01,990 --> 01:19:59,600 manufacture fake stories you know 2246 01:20:04,149 --> 01:20:02,000 i mean uh both of them have been caught 2247 01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:04,159 manufacturing fake stories using fake 2248 01:20:08,709 --> 01:20:06,880 sources you know david wilcock is still 2249 01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:08,719 he always cites pete peterson and we did 2250 01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:10,800 a whole two-hour show on this guy pete 2251 01:20:15,510 --> 01:20:13,280 peterson being complete total fraud like 2252 01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:15,520 every line in his bio was made up and 2253 01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:16,880 not true he said he worked for the 2254 01:20:22,550 --> 01:20:19,679 russian space agency we checked with a 2255 01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:22,560 russian space historian that wasn't true 2256 01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:24,480 it like everything in his bio his 2257 01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:26,080 education was fake he said he worked for 2258 01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:28,080 ronald reagan we checked with the ronald 2259 01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:30,560 reagan archives that was fake and david 2260 01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:32,719 wilcock loves citing that guy completely 2261 01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:35,040 totally fake made up source and the same 2262 01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:37,040 for corey good like that guy just makes 2263 01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:39,360 up stories and has been seven years no 2264 01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:40,159 proof 2265 01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:42,639 but i time traveled and you know 2266 01:20:46,870 --> 01:20:44,400 and you know what i would forgive him 2267 01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:46,880 and i wouldn't even bust his balls if he 2268 01:20:49,510 --> 01:20:48,560 was a decent person 2269 01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:49,520 right 2270 01:20:53,910 --> 01:20:52,239 yeah like i uh if you ever heard of uh 2271 01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:53,920 jason quit 2272 01:20:58,149 --> 01:20:57,120 yeah i guess he's back 2273 01:21:00,550 --> 01:20:58,159 but jason 2274 01:21:01,750 --> 01:21:00,560 tells what i would say are similar 2275 01:21:02,470 --> 01:21:01,760 stories 2276 01:21:04,149 --> 01:21:02,480 not 2277 01:21:06,390 --> 01:21:04,159 space adventures but he's had these 2278 01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:06,400 metaphysical face adventures 2279 01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:08,239 you know but potato quit has had these 2280 01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:11,360 metaphysical weird time jumps and weird 2281 01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:17,830 is that jason quit is such a nice 2282 01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:19,920 genuine person person 2283 01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:21,520 he would never hurt anybody he would 2284 01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:23,760 never eventually attack somebody that 2285 01:21:27,910 --> 01:21:25,679 said his story wasn't real 2286 01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:27,920 so for me i gave him a pass i go i'm 2287 01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:30,000 giving him he's also not out here saying 2288 01:21:33,830 --> 01:21:31,360 that he's the only person with the 2289 01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:33,840 information and like he's not doing all 2290 01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:35,520 those red flaggy things that we don't 2291 01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:36,800 want with people who are giving 2292 01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:38,400 information inside of the society you 2293 01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:40,000 know what i mean like 2294 01:21:45,270 --> 01:21:42,239 this person into a red flaggy things 2295 01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:45,280 they are it's a red flag yeah it's 100 2296 01:21:49,189 --> 01:21:47,520 we have to we as a society need to start 2297 01:21:51,270 --> 01:21:49,199 looking at red flags more and when it 2298 01:21:53,830 --> 01:21:51,280 comes to people and stop just 2299 01:21:55,830 --> 01:21:53,840 stop just titty wobble stop just blindly 2300 01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:55,840 blindly doing [\h__\h] wait what did i miss 2301 01:22:02,390 --> 01:21:57,280 about the titties i missed something 2302 01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:03,750 that one time i was abducted by aliens 2303 01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:05,199 it's our initials and he said titty 2304 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:20,950 thank you for that 2305 01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:22,070 people are going to pay me to keep my 2306 01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:24,400 clothes on see there you go man give me 2307 01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:26,560 a better strategy be like threatening 2308 01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:28,000 emails be like if you do not send me 2309 01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:29,280 five dollars i will send you a picture 2310 01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:34,390 the 1980s david wilcoxy he did a good 2311 01:22:39,030 --> 01:22:36,719 job he was legit he was a cool guy and 2312 01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:39,040 then all of a sudden he just [\h__\h] 2313 01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:40,480 took a left turn 2314 01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:41,920 i'm surprised that people are still into 2315 01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:43,760 their [\h__\h] to be honest 2316 01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:45,440 i'm just like 2317 01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:47,280 so ridiculous and all these psychic 2318 01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:48,880 predictions he makes none of them come 2319 01:22:53,110 --> 01:22:50,880 true he predicted that trump would win 2320 01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:53,120 the election in a landslide that when 2321 01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:54,960 that didn't work out he said 2322 01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:55,760 the 2323 01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:00,880 and you know 2324 01:23:04,830 --> 01:23:03,440 i look like jenna marbles 2325 01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:04,840 that's actually sweet i like the second 2326 01:23:12,709 --> 01:23:08,800 that corey good tried to sue people for 2327 01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:14,550 it was like i'm done i'm done yeah you 2328 01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:15,760 just 2329 01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:18,719 he was he was gaslighting himself like 2330 01:23:23,189 --> 01:23:22,000 that that just looks so 2331 01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:23,199 yeah it's sketchy it's not about 2332 01:23:26,229 --> 01:23:24,480 disclosure you know what else is 2333 01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:26,239 interesting about him everybody that 2334 01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:28,480 works with or for him has to sign a 2335 01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:30,480 non-disclosure agreement but he's mr 2336 01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:33,280 disclosure it makes no sense like really 2337 01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:35,040 mr disclosure i gotta sign a 2338 01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:37,679 non-disclosure agreement to your website 2339 01:23:41,830 --> 01:23:39,600 that's some other red flag [\h__\h] anytime 2340 01:23:44,229 --> 01:23:41,840 somebody wants to sign a [\h__\h] 2341 01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:44,239 disclosure like that for no reason 2342 01:23:48,470 --> 01:23:46,000 there's a reason 2343 01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:48,480 i think the day that he didn't sign my 2344 01:23:52,390 --> 01:23:50,960 book is when his head got so big that i 2345 01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:52,400 was like i'm not interested oh please 2346 01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:53,840 tell the story tell the story tell the 2347 01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:55,040 story oh come on do you want to sign 2348 01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:56,080 your book 2349 01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:58,159 a long time ago i was a big david 2350 01:24:02,550 --> 01:23:59,760 wilcock fan i used to read all of his 2351 01:24:04,629 --> 01:24:02,560 books and um 2352 01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:04,639 it even like the first cup like the 2353 01:24:08,709 --> 01:24:05,840 first time 2354 01:24:11,030 --> 01:24:08,719 i saw him lecture i was too shy to ask 2355 01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:11,040 him i used to be super [\h__\h] shy 2356 01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:12,880 i was too shy to ask him so the second 2357 01:24:17,270 --> 01:24:14,880 time i went and saw him in lecture i did 2358 01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:17,280 bring all my books and jamie and my 2359 01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:19,440 husband basically like pushed me to go 2360 01:24:23,430 --> 01:24:21,760 ask him because i was still [\h__\h] shy 2361 01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:23,440 as hell 2362 01:24:29,990 --> 01:24:24,480 and 2363 01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:30,000 no 2364 01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:31,040 was like 2365 01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:36,880 wasn't doing anything 2366 01:24:39,990 --> 01:24:38,719 he's literally standing he's very 2367 01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:40,000 interesting 2368 01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:41,760 all the other guys like a tear i like 2369 01:24:46,470 --> 01:24:43,679 walked back literally like the rest of 2370 01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:46,480 her day was ruined she was so upset yeah 2371 01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:49,280 she was just like 2372 01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:50,719 yeah he's a little tear they're like 2373 01:24:54,709 --> 01:24:53,040 what happened i'm like he said no 2374 01:24:56,550 --> 01:24:54,719 they're like yeah you wouldn't do it 2375 01:24:57,830 --> 01:24:56,560 yeah nice guy you know what's funny 2376 01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:57,840 though is that a lot of them never meet 2377 01:25:01,910 --> 01:24:59,920 your heroes a lot of the people thank 2378 01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:01,920 you ryan they're regular people and they 2379 01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:03,520 walk around the conference and if people 2380 01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:04,639 come up to them and talk to them they 2381 01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:06,159 stop and they talk they're like regular 2382 01:25:11,110 --> 01:25:08,480 people like nick redfearn and a few 2383 01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:11,120 others that are down for sure yeah yeah 2384 01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:13,199 yeah you know like john from the black 2385 01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:15,120 fault a few others i could think of but 2386 01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:15,840 but 2387 01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:18,080 wilcock and good are always like they 2388 01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:20,800 need to have their own room yes they 2389 01:25:24,390 --> 01:25:22,560 they need security what do you need 2390 01:25:26,629 --> 01:25:24,400 security for you talk about stupid 2391 01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:26,639 nonsense you know i know and it was a 2392 01:25:31,030 --> 01:25:29,040 small conference he wasn't doing 2393 01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:31,040 anything honestly i swear it was like 2394 01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:33,280 from that day forward 2395 01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:35,280 because he was he didn't used to be like 2396 01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:37,199 that he didn't have security he was just 2397 01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:39,760 he was more down-to-earth 2398 01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:41,920 so thanks for your 20 thanks for your 20 2399 01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:44,159 bucks and look from my perspective i 2400 01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:45,440 would if somebody asked me to sign a 2401 01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:48,080 book i have a book on amazon and i'd 2402 01:25:51,590 --> 01:25:49,440 want to sign it 2403 01:25:53,189 --> 01:25:51,600 absolutely like i feel like a rock star 2404 01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:53,199 really exactly that's how you get your 2405 01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:55,199 money he's getting his money from people 2406 01:25:59,830 --> 01:25:57,440 that buy his book and he had to he had 2407 01:26:01,830 --> 01:25:59,840 to he didn't even stop to think right 2408 01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:01,840 what did you say i bought all his books 2409 01:26:06,149 --> 01:26:04,000 i read all his books you asked him to 2410 01:26:08,070 --> 01:26:06,159 sign a book and he didn't even stop to 2411 01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:08,080 think that this person may have spent a 2412 01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:09,920 hundred dollars buying every book i've 2413 01:26:13,750 --> 01:26:11,040 ever written 2414 01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:13,760 and as a supporter of mine i should take 2415 01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:16,000 10 seconds and just say i'm very busy 2416 01:26:20,229 --> 01:26:18,400 right now give me the book thank you for 2417 01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:20,239 your support and sign the book that's 2418 01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:21,600 all you had to do right only had to do 2419 01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:23,280 he wasn't even busy he could have been 2420 01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:24,800 like in a minute 2421 01:26:29,750 --> 01:26:27,520 he literally scribbled anything exactly 2422 01:26:31,750 --> 01:26:29,760 right i'm doing a new video i'm doing a 2423 01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:31,760 new video i'm clipping out parts of this 2424 01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:33,920 and we're going to demand that he sign 2425 01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:43,750 she had like five of his books in her 2426 01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:45,280 hand she was like she went up there with 2427 01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:46,880 all of the stuff like big-eyed like 2428 01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:48,560 please sir can you sign this and he was 2429 01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:51,199 just like no i i will not 2430 01:26:54,790 --> 01:26:53,280 oh my god like that orphan thing 2431 01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:54,800 exactly 2432 01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,560 i was a really i was like we learned 2433 01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,560 yeah we learned early that meeting here 2434 01:27:02,229 --> 01:27:00,560 meeting your hero that's what i say 2435 01:27:03,910 --> 01:27:02,239 when we talk about these people we talk 2436 01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:03,920 about them as being human beings because 2437 01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:05,440 with me and brie one thing that we do is 2438 01:27:08,629 --> 01:27:07,280 we go to a lot of conferences and we've 2439 01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:08,639 actually spent a lot of time with these 2440 01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:10,080 speakers just sitting at bars and 2441 01:27:14,470 --> 01:27:12,239 drinking with them because it's 2442 01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:14,480 some of the inside baseball yeah there's 2443 01:27:18,149 --> 01:27:16,639 there's that that happens and you learn 2444 01:27:20,470 --> 01:27:18,159 very quickly that these at the end of 2445 01:27:22,390 --> 01:27:20,480 the day are human beings just like we 2446 01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:22,400 are and the versions that you see on tv 2447 01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:23,920 of them are not the same versions that 2448 01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:25,199 you see when they sit on the couch 2449 01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:26,400 they're completely different kinds of 2450 01:27:29,189 --> 01:27:27,679 people 2451 01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:29,199 yeah but if someone's writing a book 2452 01:27:32,149 --> 01:27:30,719 telling people that it's about service 2453 01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:32,159 to others but they won't take two 2454 01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:33,679 seconds to sign a book for one of their 2455 01:27:37,030 --> 01:27:34,960 fans and someone that's actually and 2456 01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:37,040 that's even worse now i know that you 2457 01:27:41,189 --> 01:27:39,360 had a stack of his books in your hand he 2458 01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:41,199 could have looked at that and said she 2459 01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:53,910 it's just going to be me laughing 2460 01:27:56,070 --> 01:27:55,120 yes 2461 01:27:58,149 --> 01:27:56,080 thank you for your kindness your 2462 01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:58,159 generosity and your leave [\h__\h] with that 2463 01:28:00,470 --> 01:27:59,040 with that kind of money you keep 2464 01:28:02,229 --> 01:28:00,480 donating i think you need to start and 2465 01:28:03,270 --> 01:28:02,239 only fans just so you can continue to 2466 01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,280 donate 2467 01:28:06,950 --> 01:28:05,360 yes well listen now we gotta we gotta 2468 01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:06,960 get into some of this drama so who's the 2469 01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:08,320 wild ones 2470 01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:10,239 right i've heard like laura eisenhower 2471 01:28:13,669 --> 01:28:12,000 likes to pound a few down and a few 2472 01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:13,679 other people so here's the thing from 2473 01:28:17,910 --> 01:28:15,679 the wild one i was like 2474 01:28:20,149 --> 01:28:17,920 i was like i was like here's a big 2475 01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:20,159 when it comes to the ufo she really is 2476 01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:21,440 she really is but when it comes to the 2477 01:28:26,950 --> 01:28:24,239 ufo conferences and stuff it's not one 2478 01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:26,960 person over the other it's everybody is 2479 01:28:30,629 --> 01:28:29,040 completely relaxed in themselves and 2480 01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:30,639 everybody gets trashed and does whatever 2481 01:28:34,390 --> 01:28:32,159 the hell they want it's not like an 2482 01:28:35,590 --> 01:28:34,400 indiv like everybody i'll tell you guys 2483 01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:35,600 something here 2484 01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:37,840 nick pope got really drunk me and brie 2485 01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:39,360 might have got him drunk by buying him 2486 01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:43,520 tequila and he ate all of my nachos 2487 01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:45,920 this is a true story that happens i i 2488 01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:47,280 have no idea 2489 01:28:50,229 --> 01:28:48,719 i have no id we have pictures of it we 2490 01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:50,239 have no idea if he remembers eating my 2491 01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:51,920 nachos or anything like that but he did 2492 01:28:54,950 --> 01:28:53,280 that's the kind of stuff that happens 2493 01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:54,960 there so it's not that like there it's 2494 01:28:58,629 --> 01:28:56,560 not like there's too much to dish 2495 01:29:00,870 --> 01:28:58,639 because everybody is just like hanging 2496 01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:00,880 out and having fun and you just you have 2497 01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:03,520 to be there and in the the moment at the 2498 01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:04,960 night when everybody's been drinking 2499 01:29:07,669 --> 01:29:06,080 they've been hanging out all day and 2500 01:29:09,590 --> 01:29:07,679 learning new information and wanting to 2501 01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:09,600 talk about things and it's a really 2502 01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:11,760 super cool vibe to hang out with these 2503 01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:13,199 people and just talk to them and like 2504 01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:15,280 learn more about the subject yeah but i 2505 01:29:18,470 --> 01:29:16,960 have a bone to pick with pope because 2506 01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:18,480 that's not the first time he's done that 2507 01:29:35,669 --> 01:29:33,189 that when you're drunk nachos are 2508 01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:35,679 delicious 2509 01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:36,960 it's not about the 2510 01:29:41,030 --> 01:29:38,800 not about the nachos it's that we've 2511 01:29:42,550 --> 01:29:41,040 hung out with the time yeah multiple 2512 01:29:43,830 --> 01:29:42,560 times we've got you guys wrong with them 2513 01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:43,840 and he actually doesn't know exactly 2514 01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:50,470 never never yeah but we've hung out with 2515 01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:52,719 them like multiple times like he at one 2516 01:29:56,390 --> 01:29:54,960 point he actually like 2517 01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:56,400 lived not that far from where we were 2518 01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:58,239 living at and he like invited us to hang 2519 01:30:01,750 --> 01:29:59,760 out with him and his wife at a local 2520 01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:01,760 place that they hung out at like but he 2521 01:30:04,870 --> 01:30:03,199 still pretends like he doesn't know us 2522 01:30:06,870 --> 01:30:04,880 and then we're like 2523 01:30:08,470 --> 01:30:06,880 on the [\h__\h] show and it's just like 2524 01:30:10,870 --> 01:30:08,480 i'm too busy he's like i'm sorry i don't 2525 01:30:13,270 --> 01:30:10,880 know who you are i'm too busy thank you 2526 01:30:15,350 --> 01:30:13,280 no one's busy no one's busy pope we're 2527 01:30:17,030 --> 01:30:15,360 in lockdown no one's [\h__\h] busy i 2528 01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:17,040 started my show right at the start of 2529 01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:19,120 this thing so i had a captive audience 2530 01:30:22,149 --> 01:30:21,040 i'm praying for more lockdowns that's 2531 01:30:24,310 --> 01:30:22,159 what i'm doing 2532 01:30:26,629 --> 01:30:24,320 it keeps your audience up 2533 01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:26,639 come on overcrowd let's go 2534 01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:28,000 let's go 2535 01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:29,520 lock these people down make them so 2536 01:30:34,790 --> 01:30:32,560 bored they watch my show more exactly 2537 01:30:36,629 --> 01:30:34,800 we did not pay him fifty dollars to talk 2538 01:30:40,790 --> 01:30:36,639 to him but we did buy him some drinks to 2539 01:30:45,030 --> 01:30:42,629 i was very critical of that he do he's 2540 01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:45,040 doing 50 hour zoom sessions you get some 2541 01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:46,560 skills 2542 01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:47,520 all right 2543 01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:49,120 okay here's okay wait wait let's talk 2544 01:30:52,070 --> 01:30:50,639 about something when it comes to ufology 2545 01:30:54,229 --> 01:30:52,080 and people getting money no listen you 2546 01:30:56,149 --> 01:30:54,239 know what i'm going to do we all right 2547 01:30:57,910 --> 01:30:56,159 grind let him do it i'm going to do it 2548 01:30:59,270 --> 01:30:57,920 first of all nick barra is one of our 2549 01:30:59,990 --> 01:30:59,280 greatest friends 2550 01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:00,000 mike 2551 01:31:07,350 --> 01:31:05,760 he's our best friend and yes he did hit 2552 01:31:09,189 --> 01:31:07,360 on both of us we love mike barrow with a 2553 01:31:11,590 --> 01:31:09,199 very deep sound 2554 01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:11,600 i have a picture i have a picture oh you 2555 01:31:14,950 --> 01:31:13,679 know what i'm going to do please please 2556 01:31:16,229 --> 01:31:14,960 brie please show it please right now 2557 01:31:17,669 --> 01:31:16,239 please show up jamie and brianna you 2558 01:31:18,790 --> 01:31:17,679 know what i'm gonna do i am gonna give 2559 01:31:20,149 --> 01:31:18,800 him the 50 2560 01:31:21,430 --> 01:31:20,159 and then as soon as he comes on the 2561 01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:21,440 skype i'm just going to start yelling 2562 01:31:25,270 --> 01:31:23,040 and screaming at him for eating your 2563 01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:25,280 nachos and i'm going to record it and 2564 01:31:28,870 --> 01:31:26,880 then i'm going to play it on my shirt 2565 01:31:31,030 --> 01:31:28,880 beautiful beautiful i love it 2566 01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:31,040 on your show i will be pissed at that 2567 01:31:33,990 --> 01:31:32,400 point i'm going to be like he's he's 2568 01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:34,000 [\h__\h] successful that's right no i've 2569 01:31:38,149 --> 01:31:36,400 been very critical of his claims of many 2570 01:31:39,110 --> 01:31:38,159 of his claims so he he's not coming on 2571 01:31:43,670 --> 01:31:39,120 my show 2572 01:31:49,590 --> 01:31:47,590 [Music] 2573 01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:49,600 anyways everyone hates bara and his 2574 01:31:52,709 --> 01:31:51,040 [\h__\h] and i 2575 01:31:54,550 --> 01:31:52,719 listen we all live in our own world and 2576 01:31:56,470 --> 01:31:54,560 i love bara because i love him as a 2577 01:31:59,350 --> 01:31:56,480 human being and he's my favorite 2578 01:32:00,950 --> 01:31:59,360 no bara is unapologetically himself and 2579 01:32:02,709 --> 01:32:00,960 that's and that's what we love about him 2580 01:32:04,390 --> 01:32:02,719 regardless of what his politics are or 2581 01:32:06,870 --> 01:32:04,400 what he's into he doesn't give two shits 2582 01:32:08,790 --> 01:32:06,880 and we've vibrated oh i i couldn't place 2583 01:32:10,709 --> 01:32:08,800 him and now i know who he is yeah 2584 01:32:13,510 --> 01:32:10,719 i think he's a i think he's a bar has 2585 01:32:16,149 --> 01:32:13,520 been on our show two or three times and 2586 01:32:17,430 --> 01:32:16,159 then recently we interviewed him for 2587 01:32:19,189 --> 01:32:17,440 contact in the desert when that was 2588 01:32:21,189 --> 01:32:19,199 going on this year for their for their 2589 01:32:22,950 --> 01:32:21,199 website uh but we're big we love mike 2590 01:32:24,390 --> 01:32:22,960 barr mike bart like i said is one of our 2591 01:32:27,110 --> 01:32:24,400 dear friends 2592 01:32:29,350 --> 01:32:27,120 yeah but he doesn't care he i mean and 2593 01:32:30,870 --> 01:32:29,360 he has you know all those people are his 2594 01:32:33,110 --> 01:32:30,880 colleagues he does 2595 01:32:34,950 --> 01:32:33,120 shows with them and conferences with 2596 01:32:36,470 --> 01:32:34,960 them and he still doesn't care to call 2597 01:32:38,070 --> 01:32:36,480 people out on their [\h__\h] and i think 2598 01:32:39,510 --> 01:32:38,080 that's kind of crazy 2599 01:32:41,270 --> 01:32:39,520 when you're at a level where you're 2600 01:32:43,270 --> 01:32:41,280 getting paid to be on tv with certain 2601 01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:43,280 people i think it's very ballsy and it 2602 01:32:48,149 --> 01:32:45,920 just shows that he isn't afraid he's 2603 01:32:50,310 --> 01:32:48,159 just himself at the end of the mind you 2604 01:32:52,310 --> 01:32:50,320 know and he's really the only person i 2605 01:32:54,709 --> 01:32:52,320 felt like that was out there 2606 01:32:56,550 --> 01:32:54,719 that was willing to say that he doesn't 2607 01:32:58,629 --> 01:32:56,560 believe any of the 2608 01:33:00,470 --> 01:32:58,639 tic tac videos that came out he like 2609 01:33:02,390 --> 01:33:00,480 from the government the tic-tac picks 2610 01:33:03,750 --> 01:33:02,400 apart lou alizondo he was like the first 2611 01:33:06,149 --> 01:33:03,760 person that was just like [\h__\h] it i 2612 01:33:07,910 --> 01:33:06,159 don't i'm not jumping on the bandwagon 2613 01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:07,920 that everyone else seems to be and he 2614 01:33:11,430 --> 01:33:09,760 never has jumped on any bandwagon that's 2615 01:33:12,870 --> 01:33:11,440 what i love about him 2616 01:33:14,629 --> 01:33:12,880 i've been unfair to him i don't know 2617 01:33:15,750 --> 01:33:14,639 much about him but i do know 2618 01:33:20,390 --> 01:33:15,760 that 2619 01:33:22,070 --> 01:33:20,400 were like really grady crappy photos 2620 01:33:23,830 --> 01:33:22,080 from the moon that can be disproven 2621 01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:23,840 easily and some other stuff so i just 2622 01:33:27,669 --> 01:33:25,440 sometimes i just turn off to certain 2623 01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:27,679 personalities and i go not credible not 2624 01:33:30,070 --> 01:33:28,719 listening 2625 01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:30,080 and and he's one of those well and here 2626 01:33:33,189 --> 01:33:31,600 and here's one thing that i really love 2627 01:33:34,790 --> 01:33:33,199 about mike especially because he's in 2628 01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:34,800 this because he doesn't mike doesn't 2629 01:33:38,870 --> 01:33:37,040 stick to one topic and he definitely 2630 01:33:41,270 --> 01:33:38,880 jumps on and is always constantly giving 2631 01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:41,280 new information to new topics regardless 2632 01:33:45,430 --> 01:33:43,920 of what his his opinion is on it he's 2633 01:33:46,950 --> 01:33:45,440 talking he's not just like giving you 2634 01:33:48,709 --> 01:33:46,960 the same story over and over again he 2635 01:33:50,390 --> 01:33:48,719 has his book so he does sell those so he 2636 01:33:52,470 --> 01:33:50,400 talks about [\h__\h] that he's done before 2637 01:33:54,149 --> 01:33:52,480 but he's talking about recent topics and 2638 01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:54,159 things like that he's not just like 2639 01:33:57,910 --> 01:33:55,840 trying to give you some [\h__\h] like by 2640 01:33:59,110 --> 01:33:57,920 my colt stuff you know what i mean yeah 2641 01:34:02,310 --> 01:33:59,120 he's under 2642 01:34:03,590 --> 01:34:02,320 we're big we're big mike barra fans 2643 01:34:05,110 --> 01:34:03,600 honestly i'm gonna clip this and send it 2644 01:34:06,550 --> 01:34:05,120 to him because i love it and i don't i 2645 01:34:07,910 --> 01:34:06,560 don't agree with a lot of [\h__\h] i would i 2646 01:34:09,510 --> 01:34:07,920 would interview him i would interview 2647 01:34:11,350 --> 01:34:09,520 him but i would have to he's a great guy 2648 01:34:13,189 --> 01:34:11,360 read a couple of his books first before 2649 01:34:14,870 --> 01:34:13,199 i do you should he's a really good guy 2650 01:34:16,390 --> 01:34:14,880 i've seen him around 2651 01:34:17,990 --> 01:34:16,400 if you want a shortcut you could go 2652 01:34:19,990 --> 01:34:18,000 listen to like i said we interviewed him 2653 01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:20,000 twice three four times on our show go 2654 01:34:23,270 --> 01:34:21,360 listen to it you mean you're going to 2655 01:34:24,629 --> 01:34:23,280 buy his books and not yeah i am but 2656 01:34:26,550 --> 01:34:24,639 you're going to be no 2657 01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:26,560 if i if i interview if i interview 2658 01:34:31,110 --> 01:34:28,960 somebody that gives me that forces me to 2659 01:34:32,870 --> 01:34:31,120 read them sometimes i book interviews 2660 01:34:35,110 --> 01:34:32,880 like we had david halperin and he had 2661 01:34:37,590 --> 01:34:35,120 this really amazing book on spirituality 2662 01:34:39,189 --> 01:34:37,600 and ufos and mythology and i wanted to 2663 01:34:42,470 --> 01:34:39,199 read it and i knew if i booked him as a 2664 01:34:43,430 --> 01:34:42,480 guest i would read it and i did 2665 01:34:45,990 --> 01:34:43,440 motivation 2666 01:34:47,109 --> 01:34:46,000 so yeah it motivated me to get it done 2667 01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:47,119 right 2668 01:34:55,109 --> 01:34:53,030 oh and and people are commenting that he 2669 01:34:56,550 --> 01:34:55,119 hit on you both at contact in the desert 2670 01:34:58,629 --> 01:34:56,560 100 2671 01:35:13,669 --> 01:34:58,639 look there you go look 2672 01:35:17,510 --> 01:35:15,430 so we were at contact of the desert and 2673 01:35:19,189 --> 01:35:17,520 they have this like award ceremony and 2674 01:35:21,109 --> 01:35:19,199 it's is it george nori's birthday whose 2675 01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:21,119 birthday is it every time it's george 2676 01:35:23,910 --> 01:35:22,400 nori's birthday it's george roy's 2677 01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:23,920 birthday every time at this concert in 2678 01:35:27,990 --> 01:35:26,320 the desert i'm the party animal so we 2679 01:35:30,229 --> 01:35:28,000 paid money to go to this banquet it was 2680 01:35:31,510 --> 01:35:30,239 like 50 or 60 bucks each and you get to 2681 01:35:33,430 --> 01:35:31,520 pick a table where you sit with one of 2682 01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:33,440 the speakers and we were very late and 2683 01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:35,440 last in line and one of the only tables 2684 01:35:38,070 --> 01:35:36,880 that was left open for enough people 2685 01:35:40,070 --> 01:35:38,080 that we had in our group because it was 2686 01:35:41,270 --> 01:35:40,080 me her and her husband was mike bars and 2687 01:35:42,950 --> 01:35:41,280 we're like [\h__\h] it we like borrow we'll 2688 01:35:44,229 --> 01:35:42,960 go do that and honestly ever since then 2689 01:35:46,070 --> 01:35:44,239 is when we've been best friends with him 2690 01:35:48,149 --> 01:35:46,080 because we sat at his table he bought 2691 01:35:49,030 --> 01:35:48,159 bree a drink but i ended up drinking it 2692 01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:49,040 it was like it was just like the 2693 01:35:53,030 --> 01:35:50,320 craziest time and then we went 2694 01:35:54,229 --> 01:35:53,040 downstairs and was hanging out with nori 2695 01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:54,239 and like it was 2696 01:35:57,189 --> 01:35:55,679 one of the craziest nights we've ever 2697 01:35:59,189 --> 01:35:57,199 had where we just had so much fun and it 2698 01:36:01,189 --> 01:35:59,199 was clyde lewis was there if i remember 2699 01:36:03,030 --> 01:36:01,199 correctly it was like it was crazy it 2700 01:36:05,350 --> 01:36:03,040 was so much fun oh i was on his show i 2701 01:36:07,510 --> 01:36:05,360 like him i like him he's got 2702 01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:07,520 the best radio voice ever he does have 2703 01:36:10,149 --> 01:36:08,880 super good radio advice but yeah like 2704 01:36:11,830 --> 01:36:10,159 that's what the conferences are about i 2705 01:36:13,109 --> 01:36:11,840 highly recommend as much as they're a 2706 01:36:14,629 --> 01:36:13,119 [\h__\h] ton of money and they're a pain in 2707 01:36:16,149 --> 01:36:14,639 the ass to get to sometimes they're 2708 01:36:17,990 --> 01:36:16,159 worth every [\h__\h] penny you have so 2709 01:36:19,430 --> 01:36:18,000 much fun and such cool experiences with 2710 01:36:20,629 --> 01:36:19,440 people there even if you don't have them 2711 01:36:21,830 --> 01:36:20,639 with people like speakers and stuff and 2712 01:36:23,030 --> 01:36:21,840 you just hang out with random people 2713 01:36:25,109 --> 01:36:23,040 that are there we did that for years 2714 01:36:26,629 --> 01:36:25,119 just like random ass people 2715 01:36:27,750 --> 01:36:26,639 yeah i've heard that that's most of the 2716 01:36:29,430 --> 01:36:27,760 fun right 2717 01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:29,440 oh for sure you make something 2718 01:36:33,510 --> 01:36:31,360 about the lectures or whatever it's 2719 01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:33,520 about the camaraderie and you know that 2720 01:36:35,830 --> 01:36:34,560 you're among 2721 01:36:39,109 --> 01:36:35,840 friendly people that aren't just gonna 2722 01:36:41,990 --> 01:36:39,119 go boy you're nuts right 2723 01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:42,000 exactly it's a safe space i as much as i 2724 01:36:47,590 --> 01:36:45,119 hate that word right no but it is it is 2725 01:36:49,030 --> 01:36:47,600 so it's comfortable it's like we meet so 2726 01:36:50,790 --> 01:36:49,040 many people there i remember the last 2727 01:36:52,629 --> 01:36:50,800 time we went it's the first day and it 2728 01:36:53,510 --> 01:36:52,639 was before the conference even started 2729 01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:53,520 and 2730 01:36:57,030 --> 01:36:54,960 there were like 2731 01:36:59,030 --> 01:36:57,040 tons of people in our hotel room and at 2732 01:37:01,270 --> 01:36:59,040 one point was like who are these people 2733 01:37:03,669 --> 01:37:01,280 yeah i think there was at some point 2734 01:37:05,910 --> 01:37:03,679 it was just like yeah 2735 01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:05,920 people in our hotel room yeah if i ever 2736 01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:08,080 get to them i'm going i'm going where 2737 01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:10,480 where is jamie and brianna definitely 2738 01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:11,760 not groupies 2739 01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:13,199 i like the party 2740 01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:15,360 galactic groupies yeah we've actually 2741 01:37:17,590 --> 01:37:16,480 been called that before that's not the 2742 01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:17,600 first time we've been called that that's 2743 01:37:20,070 --> 01:37:18,800 funny and listen it's not that we're 2744 01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:20,080 groupies it's like we just hang out and 2745 01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:22,080 want to have fun with people like 2746 01:37:24,550 --> 01:37:23,280 you would understand if you were there 2747 01:37:27,270 --> 01:37:24,560 it's a whole party vibe you got to be 2748 01:37:28,790 --> 01:37:27,280 there everyone who's here does that yeah 2749 01:37:30,470 --> 01:37:28,800 a lot of these people we've just made 2750 01:37:32,870 --> 01:37:30,480 friends with and they stick around and 2751 01:37:35,270 --> 01:37:32,880 then yeah some of these people who 2752 01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:36,310 we're like are you going to this one are 2753 01:37:41,830 --> 01:37:37,840 you going to that one honestly we met 2754 01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:41,840 ufo jane at a at uh uh alien con 2755 01:37:47,270 --> 01:37:44,400 we met yeah like we've met people i 2756 01:37:50,629 --> 01:37:47,280 think we met uh the ufo garage guys and 2757 01:37:53,590 --> 01:37:50,639 dave from sro uh at conferences like we 2758 01:37:56,229 --> 01:37:53,600 just meet people along the way 2759 01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:56,239 which one's a tall nordic girlfriend hey 2760 01:37:59,430 --> 01:37:57,679 don't we let's like think about it 2761 01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:59,440 people come to the chats right you see 2762 01:38:02,310 --> 01:38:00,960 people talk and then you come the chats 2763 01:38:04,149 --> 01:38:02,320 everyone like makes friends people 2764 01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:04,159 recognize each other in the chat it's 2765 01:38:07,990 --> 01:38:06,639 like that but in real life in real life 2766 01:38:09,750 --> 01:38:08,000 and then it's like hey you want to take 2767 01:38:11,030 --> 01:38:09,760 a shot like you can't tell me that's not 2768 01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:11,040 [\h__\h] fun and that you wouldn't want 2769 01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:12,560 to go doesn't mean we're all groupies 2770 01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:13,920 with each other it's just literally that 2771 01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:16,480 we all want to hang out it's so much fun 2772 01:38:19,990 --> 01:38:17,920 no i could see it and i've heard from so 2773 01:38:22,790 --> 01:38:20,000 many different people that they had more 2774 01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:22,800 fun with just the this when 2775 01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:24,960 just hanging out in the conference rooms 2776 01:38:30,790 --> 01:38:27,760 and stuff before the the actual event 2777 01:38:32,629 --> 01:38:30,800 you know and meeting people and you know 2778 01:38:35,750 --> 01:38:32,639 like you said it's it's a 2779 01:38:37,270 --> 01:38:35,760 it's a strange niche interest so it's 2780 01:38:38,709 --> 01:38:37,280 just like going if you're hugely into 2781 01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:38,719 dungeons and dragons and you go to a 2782 01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:40,239 dungeons or dragons convention you're 2783 01:38:43,750 --> 01:38:41,760 gonna have a good time because 2784 01:38:46,390 --> 01:38:43,760 you're with your 2785 01:38:48,629 --> 01:38:46,400 accepts you the conversations too that 2786 01:38:50,229 --> 01:38:48,639 are had oh my god it's like it goes all 2787 01:38:52,310 --> 01:38:50,239 over the place people aren't 2788 01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:52,320 afraid where obviously you're not gonna 2789 01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:53,920 go down to local starbucks and have a 2790 01:38:56,709 --> 01:38:55,360 random conversation with a bunch of 2791 01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:56,719 people there that are willing to talk 2792 01:39:00,229 --> 01:38:58,960 about alternate universes 2793 01:39:01,350 --> 01:39:00,239 so 2794 01:39:03,030 --> 01:39:01,360 you know 2795 01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:03,040 yeah you gotta go you gotta find the 2796 01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:04,560 right kind of people to start you have 2797 01:39:07,910 --> 01:39:06,000 to be super specific with that stuff 2798 01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:07,920 stop being genuine with your crazy 2799 01:39:11,270 --> 01:39:09,840 interests right you know i don't talk 2800 01:39:13,189 --> 01:39:11,280 about any of this stuff to bring your 2801 01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:13,199 people and it's funny most people don't 2802 01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:15,520 know what i do so you know once in a 2803 01:39:21,590 --> 01:39:17,040 while somebody will find out and then 2804 01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:23,590 so that's what you're into 2805 01:39:28,229 --> 01:39:24,880 yeah 2806 01:39:31,189 --> 01:39:28,239 probes and aliens that's it so where are 2807 01:39:32,950 --> 01:39:31,199 we so are we 2808 01:39:34,790 --> 01:39:32,960 on the butt stuff 2809 01:39:37,750 --> 01:39:34,800 about the butt stuff and not afraid to 2810 01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:37,760 admit it not afraid no yeah and you guys 2811 01:39:41,109 --> 01:39:39,280 mentioned before i totally forgot about 2812 01:39:42,790 --> 01:39:41,119 it i'm sorry but i have a note here that 2813 01:39:45,510 --> 01:39:42,800 you guys have some 2814 01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:45,520 news that you wanted to talk about okay 2815 01:39:49,270 --> 01:39:47,440 okay okay okay okay so we're going to 2816 01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:49,280 dish now we're getting to the good stuff 2817 01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:52,000 now as we are trying to figure out our 2818 01:39:56,070 --> 01:39:54,719 our channel and meeting a lot of people 2819 01:39:58,149 --> 01:39:56,080 in this uh 2820 01:39:59,669 --> 01:39:58,159 in this field and in this group uh 2821 01:40:01,910 --> 01:39:59,679 trying to find our footing we have 2822 01:40:03,510 --> 01:40:01,920 decided that what this 2823 01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:03,520 what this 2824 01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:07,280 is a yearly 2825 01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:11,280 awards and wrap-up show and so 2826 01:40:15,990 --> 01:40:13,760 we have decided to sacrifice ourselves 2827 01:40:18,470 --> 01:40:16,000 as the sacrificial lambs and take on 2828 01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:18,480 this like huge responsibility of like 2829 01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:20,080 gathering all of this information from 2830 01:40:24,709 --> 01:40:22,560 the year and presenting it to everyone 2831 01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:24,719 and packaging it all up and so yeah you 2832 01:40:29,030 --> 01:40:27,199 got to do a lot of clip videos 2833 01:40:31,189 --> 01:40:29,040 so on on 2834 01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:31,199 exactly so on december 29th we're going 2835 01:40:35,109 --> 01:40:33,119 to be live uh the time isn't exactly 2836 01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:35,119 nailed down yet but we're going to be 2837 01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:38,159 doing the 2021 golden probe awards and 2838 01:40:41,590 --> 01:40:39,920 we are going to be 2839 01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:41,600 we are inviting all of you guys to come 2840 01:40:44,390 --> 01:40:43,199 and watch and participate over the next 2841 01:40:46,790 --> 01:40:44,400 few days and weeks you're going to be 2842 01:40:48,310 --> 01:40:46,800 seeing more and more about it um 2843 01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:48,320 there's an amazing team that's been 2844 01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:49,440 behind it they're called the crash 2845 01:40:55,109 --> 01:40:50,800 retrieval team and they're really the 2846 01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:56,709 can you hear us now 2847 01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:57,840 i'm here 2848 01:41:02,629 --> 01:41:00,320 you got us 2849 01:41:05,910 --> 01:41:04,229 we're gonna have uh it's the crash 2850 01:41:07,669 --> 01:41:05,920 retrieval team they're behind it they're 2851 01:41:09,109 --> 01:41:07,679 the ones who are going and they're gonna 2852 01:41:11,030 --> 01:41:09,119 be behind helping us to make a lot of 2853 01:41:12,470 --> 01:41:11,040 these videos reaching out to a lot of 2854 01:41:14,229 --> 01:41:12,480 these people to come and accept these 2855 01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:14,239 awards and so they're kind of the 2856 01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,320 driving force behind it and me and brie 2857 01:41:20,070 --> 01:41:18,400 are just the vehicle for the information 2858 01:41:24,629 --> 01:41:20,080 so we just yeah 2859 01:41:27,830 --> 01:41:26,310 i was like spooky spooky knows about it 2860 01:41:29,430 --> 01:41:27,840 she's she's somebody who's involved in 2861 01:41:31,350 --> 01:41:29,440 it but like i said there's a big team 2862 01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:31,360 behind it me and brie and bobby are just 2863 01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:32,480 going to be kind of the hosts who are 2864 01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:35,199 facilitating it but yeah the host was 2865 01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:37,360 the mostest and we're going to be giving 2866 01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:40,320 you guys kind of ufo 2021 in a big giant 2867 01:41:43,109 --> 01:41:41,840 package and so we're really excited to 2868 01:41:44,830 --> 01:41:43,119 announce that 2869 01:41:46,950 --> 01:41:44,840 here live with 2870 01:41:49,590 --> 01:41:46,960 everybody oh that's amazing funny and 2871 01:41:52,629 --> 01:41:49,600 probably not what you expect it's again 2872 01:41:54,149 --> 01:41:52,639 we really take a humorous approach to 2873 01:41:56,870 --> 01:41:54,159 the topic because we think that it's 2874 01:41:58,149 --> 01:41:56,880 super necessary so all of this is going 2875 01:42:00,229 --> 01:41:58,159 to be very 2876 01:42:01,990 --> 01:42:00,239 uh tongue-in-cheek and making fun of the 2877 01:42:02,790 --> 01:42:02,000 topic and a whole kind of just going 2878 01:42:05,189 --> 01:42:02,800 over 2879 01:42:07,109 --> 01:42:05,199 all the craziness that's happened 2880 01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:07,119 i started something like this and i and 2881 01:42:11,270 --> 01:42:09,360 i i screwed up and called it the 2021 2882 01:42:13,109 --> 01:42:11,280 conspiracy circus awards and i only got 2883 01:42:16,709 --> 01:42:13,119 one out it was from boldness liar of the 2884 01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:17,510 so 2885 01:42:20,709 --> 01:42:19,280 i'm all for it i think it's a great idea 2886 01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:20,719 yeah you can have like you can have all 2887 01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:23,040 these different categories right oh yeah 2888 01:42:27,590 --> 01:42:25,280 they're exactly they're in the works 2889 01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:27,600 they're freaked out live for like you 2890 01:42:31,750 --> 01:42:29,520 know uh 2891 01:42:33,430 --> 01:42:31,760 i don't know how they play on words 2892 01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:33,440 exactly it's gonna be it's gonna be very 2893 01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:35,040 interesting what's gonna what's gonna 2894 01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:36,320 come up and 2895 01:42:39,750 --> 01:42:38,159 we we want all of you guys to help and 2896 01:42:41,430 --> 01:42:39,760 participate in kambi and we hope that 2897 01:42:43,590 --> 01:42:41,440 you uh you can be a part of it with us 2898 01:42:45,910 --> 01:42:43,600 too i feel like champion could give us 2899 01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:45,920 good winners i was like 2900 01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:47,440 yeah i'll think about it i'll think 2901 01:42:52,310 --> 01:42:49,600 about it i had that idea to do it and i 2902 01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:52,320 kind of screwed myself calling it 2021. 2903 01:42:55,270 --> 01:42:53,600 i was going to pick it back up and just 2904 01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:55,280 call it the conspiracy circus awards and 2905 01:42:58,229 --> 01:42:57,040 that put a year on it i was like no you 2906 01:43:00,070 --> 01:42:58,239 just put a year on it every year but 2907 01:43:02,149 --> 01:43:00,080 yeah it's the the 2021 golden probe 2908 01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:02,159 awards where uh all the nominees are the 2909 01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:04,719 nominees they're going to be probes 2910 01:43:07,189 --> 01:43:06,000 yeah yeah we're going to give out golden 2911 01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:07,199 probes to everyone it's going to be 2912 01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:14,390 that is amazing that is a good idea and 2913 01:43:18,149 --> 01:43:16,000 and spooky's going to help with uh some 2914 01:43:19,430 --> 01:43:18,159 of the production stuff and she's great 2915 01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:19,440 and we have a lot of special guests who 2916 01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:20,639 are coming we don't want to drop any 2917 01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:22,400 names yet but there's a lot of there's a 2918 01:43:25,109 --> 01:43:23,760 lot of behind the scenes happening it's 2919 01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:25,119 going to be a very interesting event and 2920 01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:27,280 uh we're super excited for it ufology 2921 01:43:30,310 --> 01:43:28,960 has become cheap entertainment and 2922 01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:30,320 that's what we're doing 2923 01:43:34,629 --> 01:43:32,800 only sometimes only sometimes you gotta 2924 01:43:36,229 --> 01:43:34,639 like unbutton your shirt a little bit 2925 01:43:38,709 --> 01:43:36,239 yeah people think that it's like 2926 01:43:40,390 --> 01:43:38,719 match.com here every time i have female 2927 01:43:42,870 --> 01:43:40,400 guests somebody's in the live chat 2928 01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:42,880 trying to hook up like come on 2929 01:43:46,550 --> 01:43:44,880 i can't blame a brother for trying right 2930 01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:46,560 yes i am married i am married i 2931 01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:47,920 apologize 2932 01:43:52,870 --> 01:43:51,040 brianna's married right 2933 01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:52,880 i'm very married everyone here is 2934 01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:54,239 interested but someone said bri got 2935 01:43:57,580 --> 01:43:56,400 [\h__\h] up watching e.t 2936 01:44:00,790 --> 01:43:57,590 what does that mean 2937 01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:00,800 [Laughter] 2938 01:44:04,229 --> 01:44:02,320 hey eating remember when you were a kid 2939 01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:04,239 that [\h__\h] made you cry right when he 2940 01:44:08,790 --> 01:44:06,480 died sort of like 2941 01:44:10,229 --> 01:44:08,800 and then he came back to life and yeah 2942 01:44:11,510 --> 01:44:10,239 i don't think i've ever 2943 01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:11,520 i don't think i don't think it bothered 2944 01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:13,280 me too much when i was younger 2945 01:44:19,109 --> 01:44:15,280 no 2946 01:44:23,910 --> 01:44:19,119 close encounters still gets me 2947 01:44:27,830 --> 01:44:25,669 i'm gonna help it because i'm like i 2948 01:44:30,390 --> 01:44:27,840 wish i was there for that and it makes 2949 01:44:33,109 --> 01:44:30,400 me like oh my god it's so beautiful 2950 01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:33,119 somebody's asking me now uh ryan yeah 2951 01:44:36,550 --> 01:44:35,440 i'm married too we're all married we're 2952 01:44:38,629 --> 01:44:36,560 all married 2953 01:44:41,430 --> 01:44:38,639 hey what is what is that none of us can 2954 01:44:43,669 --> 01:44:41,440 bang you find somebody else to ban you 2955 01:44:45,030 --> 01:44:43,679 maybe we're swingers and we can 2956 01:44:46,709 --> 01:44:45,040 hey 2957 01:44:48,310 --> 01:44:46,719 i don't like sharing i don't even like 2958 01:44:49,669 --> 01:44:48,320 shared food you think i want to share my 2959 01:44:51,270 --> 01:44:49,679 woman no way 2960 01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:51,280 i don't want to share french fries 2961 01:44:54,870 --> 01:44:52,800 that's it i was like i like sharing 2962 01:44:56,550 --> 01:44:54,880 french fries i can never finish them 2963 01:44:57,910 --> 01:44:56,560 really that's why it's perfect because i 2964 01:45:00,950 --> 01:44:57,920 don't want to share my french fries and 2965 01:45:03,109 --> 01:45:00,960 she'll share her french fries 2966 01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:03,119 oh well listen i don't want to keep you 2967 01:45:06,310 --> 01:45:05,440 guys we're coming up on uh two hours 2968 01:45:08,870 --> 01:45:06,320 yeah 2969 01:45:11,350 --> 01:45:08,880 i'm gonna go and read these uh paypal 2970 01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:11,360 donations and do a quick wrap-up yeah 2971 01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:13,760 absolutely yeah and we'll hopefully have 2972 01:45:18,550 --> 01:45:16,800 you on again to publicize any time 2973 01:45:19,830 --> 01:45:18,560 awards yeah 2974 01:45:22,070 --> 01:45:19,840 listen i want to thank you because 2975 01:45:24,310 --> 01:45:22,080 yesterday was kind of really heavy 2976 01:45:25,750 --> 01:45:24,320 it was like heavy and dark right you 2977 01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:25,760 know some of those shows that you got to 2978 01:45:42,950 --> 01:45:28,239 do i gotta trust you all this stuff and 2979 01:45:45,910 --> 01:45:44,470 the link to their website where you can 2980 01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:45,920 catch their audio podcast but more 2981 01:45:49,270 --> 01:45:47,360 importantly we're trying to pump up 2982 01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:49,280 their youtube numbers the link to their 2983 01:45:52,070 --> 01:45:50,880 youtube channel is in the description of 2984 01:45:53,910 --> 01:45:52,080 the video 2985 01:45:56,229 --> 01:45:53,920 you will have a good time every time i 2986 01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:56,239 tune into them i have a good time you 2987 01:46:00,950 --> 01:45:58,960 will too go hit that subscribe button 2988 01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:00,960 help them get to the magic numbers 2989 01:46:05,430 --> 01:46:03,520 because they need to praise the cash 2990 01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:05,440 absolutely 2991 01:46:09,830 --> 01:46:07,840 making money on us yeah baby needs new 2992 01:46:11,990 --> 01:46:09,840 crystals i need more crystals and i'm 2993 01:46:14,629 --> 01:46:12,000 not sure what what brie needs more 2994 01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:14,639 crystals as well more liquor 2995 01:46:20,790 --> 01:46:19,350 all right i'm gonna throw you guys out 2996 01:46:22,470 --> 01:46:20,800 of here and do a wrap up thank you very 2997 01:46:24,390 --> 01:46:22,480 much thank you so much 2998 01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:24,400 it was my pleasure hosting thank you so 2999 01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:33,830 what a fun time this was an unexpectedly 3000 01:46:37,750 --> 01:46:35,760 great fun time i love it when the shows 3001 01:46:39,990 --> 01:46:37,760 are effortless like this we're just 3002 01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:40,000 gonna do a quick thing here and check in 3003 01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:40,960 with this 3004 01:46:44,709 --> 01:46:42,560 uh paypal 3005 01:46:46,790 --> 01:46:44,719 and call out anybody that has made a 3006 01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:46,800 paypal donation i think we've called out 3007 01:46:51,350 --> 01:46:48,400 all the super chat donations so that's 3008 01:46:53,270 --> 01:46:51,360 the last bit of business here to do 3009 01:46:55,830 --> 01:46:53,280 oh look at that uh 3010 01:46:57,910 --> 01:46:55,840 well look at that kind and generous four 3011 01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:57,920 dollar i'm sorry five dollar donation 3012 01:47:02,070 --> 01:46:59,920 from allen in 3013 01:47:04,229 --> 01:47:02,080 england uh i think that was england let 3014 01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:04,239 me check to make sure 3015 01:47:09,990 --> 01:47:08,480 uh yeah i'm sorry in l in london 3016 01:47:14,950 --> 01:47:10,000 in canada 3017 01:47:17,510 --> 01:47:14,960 generous five dollars we've got 3018 01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,870 we've got uh 3019 01:47:25,030 --> 01:47:23,109 b b-e-n-g-t ben 3020 01:47:26,950 --> 01:47:25,040 is the name and the note that he had 3021 01:47:28,390 --> 01:47:26,960 with a kind of generous 528 paypal 3022 01:47:30,310 --> 01:47:28,400 donation says 3023 01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:30,320 rip the lid off 3024 01:47:34,550 --> 01:47:33,280 the scammers barrows we will continue to 3025 01:47:36,229 --> 01:47:34,560 do that thank you for kindness your 3026 01:47:37,030 --> 01:47:36,239 generosity and support and thank you as 3027 01:47:38,470 --> 01:47:37,040 well 3028 01:47:43,430 --> 01:47:38,480 uh alan 3029 01:47:48,470 --> 01:47:47,030 okay call out name is actually bex uh so 3030 01:47:50,310 --> 01:47:48,480 i got that wrong i apologize with 3031 01:47:52,709 --> 01:47:50,320 another kind of generous dollar five 3032 01:47:53,750 --> 01:47:52,719 paypal donation reminding me that it's 3033 01:47:55,350 --> 01:47:53,760 paypal 3034 01:47:57,189 --> 01:47:55,360 or excuse me that is chat room user id 3035 01:47:59,430 --> 01:47:57,199 is bec specs thank you for kindness your 3036 01:48:00,709 --> 01:47:59,440 generosity and your support and we have 3037 01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:00,719 andrew 3038 01:48:05,430 --> 01:48:03,600 uh with a kind generous 10 great britain 3039 01:48:07,350 --> 01:48:05,440 pounds who says 3040 01:48:09,350 --> 01:48:07,360 uh great work steven get yourself some 3041 01:48:11,669 --> 01:48:09,360 extra eggnog this christmas praise the 3042 01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:11,679 cash and that's from moody mongol thank 3043 01:48:16,149 --> 01:48:13,679 you moody mongol for kindness your 3044 01:48:18,470 --> 01:48:16,159 generosity and your support of the show 3045 01:48:20,870 --> 01:48:18,480 we appreciate everybody's kindness 3046 01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:20,880 generosity and support i'm just going to 3047 01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:22,719 go over real quick and make sure that we 3048 01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:25,440 did indeed call out all of the super 3049 01:48:28,709 --> 01:48:26,960 chats just so you know we're viewer 3050 01:48:30,790 --> 01:48:28,719 support show we call out every single 3051 01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:30,800 super chat 3052 01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:33,199 and we thank everyone who supports the 3053 01:48:37,990 --> 01:48:35,119 show through super chat's paypal 3054 01:48:39,109 --> 01:48:38,000 donation or becoming a patreon supporter 3055 01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:39,119 finally 3056 01:48:45,590 --> 01:48:42,480 uh oh we have jean paul fartier uh 3057 01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:45,600 fartay uh with a kind and generous 3058 01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:46,960 super sticker 3059 01:48:50,070 --> 01:48:49,119 um the rest i believe that we read out 3060 01:48:51,830 --> 01:48:50,080 but we're going to read them again 3061 01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:51,840 anyway just to make sure lead guy with a 3062 01:48:56,070 --> 01:48:54,239 kind and generous 499 super chat saying 3063 01:48:57,189 --> 01:48:56,080 i'm going to start and only fans because 3064 01:48:59,030 --> 01:48:57,199 it's just 3065 01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:59,040 going to be stephen's laugh 3066 01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:00,480 patrick sheemer the kind of generous 3067 01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:02,719 9.99 a little help to cover the f-bombs 3068 01:49:07,510 --> 01:49:04,719 thank you for your kindness and helping 3069 01:49:09,270 --> 01:49:07,520 us cover that i lost 27 cents because of 3070 01:49:11,109 --> 01:49:09,280 jamie but it's okay because i'm 10 bucks 3071 01:49:12,629 --> 01:49:11,119 up on the world thanks to the kindness 3072 01:49:14,790 --> 01:49:12,639 the generosity and support of patrick 3073 01:49:16,790 --> 01:49:14,800 sheehan we have dorothy hawkins with a 3074 01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:16,800 kind and generous 3075 01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:20,320 five dollar uh super chat 3076 01:49:23,910 --> 01:49:22,320 and dorothy says to what uh she asked a 3077 01:49:24,790 --> 01:49:23,920 question that jamie answered to what 3078 01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:24,800 extent 3079 01:49:28,709 --> 01:49:27,119 that spiritual uh experiences be 3080 01:49:29,990 --> 01:49:28,719 considered contact experiences we 3081 01:49:32,470 --> 01:49:30,000 covered that tonight lee guy with the 3082 01:49:35,189 --> 01:49:32,480 kind of generous 499 saying when i was a 3083 01:49:37,990 --> 01:49:35,199 kid i was told i was a devil whisperer 3084 01:49:39,189 --> 01:49:38,000 playing pokemon that is terrible 3085 01:49:41,910 --> 01:49:39,199 uh 3086 01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:41,920 john paul forte again with a kind of 3087 01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:44,560 generous 20 super chat big donator 3088 01:49:47,990 --> 01:49:46,639 tonight saying hey steven campbell and 3089 01:49:50,310 --> 01:49:48,000 keep up the great work you're doing 3090 01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:50,320 adriana and jamie i enjoy your channel 3091 01:49:55,589 --> 01:49:52,480 lots of fun and again i'll give one 3092 01:49:57,910 --> 01:49:55,599 final pitch the link to their channel is 3093 01:49:59,830 --> 01:49:57,920 in the description box go over there 3094 01:50:01,589 --> 01:49:59,840 smash the subscribe button hit the 3095 01:50:03,350 --> 01:50:01,599 notification bell for them and if you 3096 01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:03,360 haven't for us already 3097 01:50:07,189 --> 01:50:05,040 i can remind you that there's two ways 3098 01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:07,199 to support the show the first way we've 3099 01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:08,639 talked about you can throw a couple of 3100 01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:10,480 bucks in the hat brother can you spare a 3101 01:50:15,750 --> 01:50:13,679 dollar uh but i want to remind everybody 3102 01:50:17,990 --> 01:50:15,760 the patreon we have some extra content 3103 01:50:19,750 --> 01:50:18,000 and extra benefits but i don't want to 3104 01:50:21,270 --> 01:50:19,760 withhold things from people that are big 3105 01:50:23,669 --> 01:50:21,280 supporters of the show for lack of a 3106 01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:23,679 dollar or more so if you're having a 3107 01:50:27,750 --> 01:50:25,119 tough time just send me an email 3108 01:50:29,109 --> 01:50:27,760 truthseekershow gmail.com uh mention 3109 01:50:30,790 --> 01:50:29,119 your support of the show you're having a 3110 01:50:32,709 --> 01:50:30,800 tough time don't give me any specifics 3111 01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:32,719 it's none of my business you know just 3112 01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:34,480 say hey i'd like the patreon benefits 3113 01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:37,119 and i put all those people on a list and 3114 01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:39,760 i send the patreon links out manually to 3115 01:50:43,510 --> 01:50:41,760 those people who are experiencing 3116 01:50:45,910 --> 01:50:43,520 financial difficulties it's a tough time 3117 01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:45,920 for everybody right now um and i would 3118 01:50:49,510 --> 01:50:47,520 much prefer a big supporter of the show 3119 01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:49,520 just get that extra content 3120 01:50:53,030 --> 01:50:51,520 so if you can spare a dollar join our 3121 01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:53,040 patreon you'll be glad you did we do 3122 01:50:58,149 --> 01:50:55,840 patreon only streams extra content but 3123 01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:58,159 if you're uh having a tough time no 3124 01:51:02,709 --> 01:50:59,840 problem just email me and we'll put you 3125 01:51:05,589 --> 01:51:02,719 on our special list of supporters 3126 01:51:07,430 --> 01:51:05,599 and finally the other way to help us and 3127 01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:07,440 this really does help just as much as a 3128 01:51:12,070 --> 01:51:09,520 couple of bucks the other way to help us 3129 01:51:14,550 --> 01:51:12,080 is to like comment subscribe share hit 3130 01:51:16,470 --> 01:51:14,560 the notification bell send these videos 3131 01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:16,480 to some friends put them on your social 3132 01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:18,480 media your facebook your instagram your 3133 01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:21,280 twitter share these videos far and wide 3134 01:51:25,830 --> 01:51:24,080 and that helps us to get a bigger 3135 01:51:28,709 --> 01:51:25,840 bullhorn it helps get the word out it 3136 01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:28,719 helps new people find us 3137 01:51:32,550 --> 01:51:30,800 and we would sincerely appreciate your 3138 01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:32,560 help so lacking a couple of bucks to 3139 01:51:38,310 --> 01:51:35,920 help us out uh clicking a share button 3140 01:51:40,629 --> 01:51:38,320 copying a link and posting it costs you 3141 01:51:43,350 --> 01:51:40,639 nothing but a few moments of your time 3142 01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:43,360 and it really does help just as much 3143 01:51:47,669 --> 01:51:45,440 finally i want to remind everybody 3144 01:51:49,350 --> 01:51:47,679 that's listening in audio podcast land 3145 01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:49,360 uh if you're listening in audio podcast 3146 01:51:53,189 --> 01:51:51,360 then you're listening to a repeat 3147 01:51:56,229 --> 01:51:53,199 and we would like to welcome you to come 3148 01:51:59,270 --> 01:51:56,239 here to our live and interactive tapings 3149 01:52:01,510 --> 01:51:59,280 where we record the show and interact 3150 01:52:04,310 --> 01:52:01,520 with our live audience you are most 3151 01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:04,320 welcome here just go on over to youtube 3152 01:52:09,189 --> 01:52:06,880 look for uh and and put truth seekers 3153 01:52:11,030 --> 01:52:09,199 one word in the search board look for me 3154 01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:11,040 steve campbeen the strange guy with the 3155 01:52:14,629 --> 01:52:12,880 sunglasses your host 3156 01:52:16,790 --> 01:52:14,639 smash the subscribe button hit the 3157 01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:16,800 notification bell and the next time we 3158 01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:18,719 do a live show you'll be able to come 3159 01:52:23,270 --> 01:52:20,560 here and interact with us in the live 3160 01:52:25,510 --> 01:52:23,280 chat with our we have a great live chat 3161 01:52:26,470 --> 01:52:25,520 here you can ask questions of the guests 3162 01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:26,480 or me 3163 01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:29,679 uh offer comments commentary uh we 3164 01:52:32,070 --> 01:52:30,880 support 3165 01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:32,080 uh 3166 01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:34,320 that live interaction it's a big part of 3167 01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:35,679 the show so if you're listening an audio 3168 01:52:38,629 --> 01:52:37,679 podcast land please come over here to 3169 01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:38,639 youtube 3170 01:52:43,189 --> 01:52:40,960 look up truth seekers hit that subscribe 3171 01:52:45,189 --> 01:52:43,199 button smash the notification bell we 3172 01:52:47,750 --> 01:52:45,199 want you here in our live chat we want 3173 01:52:49,350 --> 01:52:47,760 you to be a part of the show 3174 01:52:50,709 --> 01:52:49,360 so i'll take just a few moments for 3175 01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:50,719 comments and questions from the live 3176 01:52:54,229 --> 01:52:52,080 chat then we're going to wrap things up 3177 01:52:56,709 --> 01:52:54,239 here i want to thank our guests tonight 3178 01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:56,719 jamie and brianna from that one time i 3179 01:53:01,589 --> 01:52:58,800 was abducted by aliens what a fun talk 3180 01:53:03,589 --> 01:53:01,599 we had tonight go over there and 3181 01:53:05,910 --> 01:53:03,599 subscribe to their channel i would 3182 01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:05,920 appreciate that in fact 3183 01:53:11,430 --> 01:53:09,119 you know what i just realized 3184 01:53:13,589 --> 01:53:11,440 i have to practice what i preach i don't 3185 01:53:16,950 --> 01:53:13,599 believe that i am a subscriber 3186 01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:16,960 to be very honest with you i am very uh 3187 01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:18,880 i i was at one time subscribed to way 3188 01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:21,280 too many channels and i cut it all back 3189 01:53:26,709 --> 01:53:23,760 but here is what i'm going to do i'm 3190 01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:26,719 going over there right now 3191 01:53:31,589 --> 01:53:28,480 one second 3192 01:53:33,669 --> 01:53:31,599 i'm gonna yeah i'm not subscribed so uh 3193 01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:33,679 you know i apologize for that 3194 01:53:37,189 --> 01:53:35,520 one second let's go 3195 01:53:38,629 --> 01:53:37,199 check out their channel they've got it i 3196 01:53:40,149 --> 01:53:38,639 know they have an excellent interview 3197 01:53:42,149 --> 01:53:40,159 with grant cameron because i watched 3198 01:53:44,229 --> 01:53:42,159 that one and a few others it's right at 3199 01:53:46,470 --> 01:53:44,239 the top here an interview with grant 3200 01:53:47,910 --> 01:53:46,480 cameron uh this is one of the 3201 01:53:49,030 --> 01:53:47,920 interviews that i was interested in 3202 01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:49,040 hearing 3203 01:53:52,790 --> 01:53:50,320 greg cameron is one of those 3204 01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:52,800 personalities that i'll listen to any 3205 01:53:56,629 --> 01:53:54,960 interview he does with anybody because i 3206 01:53:58,390 --> 01:53:56,639 always enjoy grant cameron's views on 3207 01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:58,400 things so here's the subscribe button 3208 01:54:03,589 --> 01:54:00,800 for them i'm going to subscribe 3209 01:54:05,830 --> 01:54:03,599 and uh it says subscription added so 3210 01:54:08,709 --> 01:54:05,840 that is a good thing 3211 01:54:10,629 --> 01:54:08,719 um and they're up to 402 subscribers so 3212 01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:10,639 it looks like we did give them a pretty 3213 01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:13,679 good bump i think it was at 370 or 380 3214 01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:15,440 earlier thank you all 3215 01:54:19,510 --> 01:54:18,000 uh for helping them and helping them to 3216 01:54:21,510 --> 01:54:19,520 grow and to 3217 01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:21,520 and to help us to help them grow their 3218 01:54:26,310 --> 01:54:24,400 channel i am a big supporter of paying 3219 01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:26,320 it forward and there was just a few 3220 01:54:30,709 --> 01:54:28,960 shows just a few 3221 01:54:31,990 --> 01:54:30,719 when i started this show that actually 3222 01:54:34,790 --> 01:54:32,000 helped me 3223 01:54:36,550 --> 01:54:34,800 a great deal to get a bump to get some 3224 01:54:38,550 --> 01:54:36,560 extra subscribers so i could get to the 3225 01:54:41,510 --> 01:54:38,560 magic numbers so i feel like it's my 3226 01:54:43,910 --> 01:54:41,520 karmic duty and responsibility to help 3227 01:54:45,189 --> 01:54:43,920 other good content creators get to those 3228 01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:45,199 magic numbers 3229 01:54:49,189 --> 01:54:47,040 um you'd be doing me a favor if you go 3230 01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:49,199 over there and help them out 3231 01:54:54,229 --> 01:54:52,000 we are all in this together so maybe 3232 01:54:55,350 --> 01:54:54,239 we're all helping each other and that's 3233 01:54:57,830 --> 01:54:55,360 a good thing 3234 01:55:01,189 --> 01:54:57,840 uh oh it's lee guy's birthday i did not 3235 01:55:02,870 --> 01:55:01,199 know that happy birthday league guy uh 3236 01:55:04,470 --> 01:55:02,880 i'm i'm uh 3237 01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:04,480 just being informed of this or i would 3238 01:55:08,629 --> 01:55:06,400 have told you happy birthday before 3239 01:55:10,790 --> 01:55:08,639 right 3240 01:55:12,229 --> 01:55:10,800 great and dorothy hawkinson subscribing 3241 01:55:14,310 --> 01:55:12,239 to their channel it took me about 10 3242 01:55:15,990 --> 01:55:14,320 seconds just now thanks for the link 3243 01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:16,000 yeah the link is in the description of 3244 01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:18,480 the video give them a bump guys uh they 3245 01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:21,040 deserve it i always have a good time 3246 01:55:26,629 --> 01:55:23,440 when i tune into their show and i i know 3247 01:55:30,950 --> 01:55:28,629 uh randall hill says happy birthday 3248 01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:30,960 league guy bacon 3249 01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:33,119 lee guy's the bacon guy if you see bacon 3250 01:55:37,910 --> 01:55:35,920 in the live chat it is it is lee guy 3251 01:55:39,750 --> 01:55:37,920 right 3252 01:55:40,790 --> 01:55:39,760 bec says happy birthday anyway and thank 3253 01:55:42,629 --> 01:55:40,800 you thanks for your kindness your 3254 01:55:45,270 --> 01:55:42,639 generosity and your support and the 3255 01:55:47,510 --> 01:55:45,280 paypal donation much much appreciated i 3256 01:55:49,350 --> 01:55:47,520 am blown away by everybody's generosity 3257 01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:49,360 and support of the show 3258 01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:52,080 um sometimes it's funny like i go 3259 01:55:54,709 --> 01:55:53,280 you know i could go 3260 01:55:57,109 --> 01:55:54,719 i could look and see like oh there 3261 01:55:58,470 --> 01:55:57,119 wasn't too many uh super chats tonight 3262 01:56:00,390 --> 01:55:58,480 but then i looked on the paypal and 3263 01:56:03,109 --> 01:56:00,400 there was like five of them so 3264 01:56:06,070 --> 01:56:03,119 blown away by the generosity and support 3265 01:56:07,669 --> 01:56:06,080 it warms my heart and and 3266 01:56:09,750 --> 01:56:07,679 to know that all around the world people 3267 01:56:12,390 --> 01:56:09,760 throwing a couple of bucks in my hat 3268 01:56:13,990 --> 01:56:12,400 it reminds me of uh street busking for 3269 01:56:15,750 --> 01:56:14,000 those that don't know the street busker 3270 01:56:19,189 --> 01:56:15,760 will stand there and do whatever he does 3271 01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:19,199 play the piano play harmonica sing tell 3272 01:56:25,030 --> 01:56:21,840 jokes do magic tricks i don't know 3273 01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:25,040 uh any talent play the guitar 3274 01:56:29,430 --> 01:56:26,560 and people will walk by and throw a 3275 01:56:30,790 --> 01:56:29,440 couple of bucks in our hat uh what we do 3276 01:56:32,950 --> 01:56:30,800 here is just a 3277 01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:32,960 a more technically advanced version of 3278 01:56:37,109 --> 01:56:34,719 street busking if you like what we do 3279 01:56:39,350 --> 01:56:37,119 here throw a couple bucks in the hat if 3280 01:56:41,109 --> 01:56:39,360 you're uh here for the live chats you 3281 01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:41,119 can send a super chat we read every one 3282 01:56:45,030 --> 01:56:42,800 of them if you're here 3283 01:56:47,270 --> 01:56:45,040 listening to a replay you can still 3284 01:56:49,589 --> 01:56:47,280 donate to the show through paypal just 3285 01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:49,599 be sure to add your chat room user id 3286 01:56:54,310 --> 01:56:51,760 add a note add your chat room user id 3287 01:56:57,510 --> 01:56:54,320 and any message you want us to shout out 3288 01:56:59,430 --> 01:56:57,520 the paypal donate button uh links are in 3289 01:57:00,550 --> 01:56:59,440 the description instructions on how to 3290 01:57:02,390 --> 01:57:00,560 do that 3291 01:57:05,270 --> 01:57:02,400 um and these guys are saying thank you 3292 01:57:07,270 --> 01:57:05,280 all so much no my pleasure i'm glad uh 3293 01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:07,280 looks like we're getting you a decent 3294 01:57:12,550 --> 01:57:10,480 bump there jamie and brianna so uh 3295 01:57:15,270 --> 01:57:12,560 i'm glad that we could do that and help 3296 01:57:16,550 --> 01:57:15,280 you move your channel forward 3297 01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:16,560 all right 3298 01:57:19,189 --> 01:57:17,440 jill 3299 01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:19,199 tate is in the audience says i just 3300 01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:21,440 subscribed and build their show 3301 01:57:26,310 --> 01:57:24,480 good for you jill tate and good for them 3302 01:57:29,270 --> 01:57:26,320 i'm happy to see so many people going 3303 01:57:31,750 --> 01:57:29,280 over there to support them right 3304 01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:31,760 uh it's good thing you know it's very 3305 01:57:34,870 --> 01:57:33,199 difficult thing trying to get to those 3306 01:57:37,030 --> 01:57:34,880 magic numbers and anybody i can help to 3307 01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:37,040 do that that's a decent person and is 3308 01:57:40,550 --> 01:57:39,119 producing good content i am more than 3309 01:57:42,229 --> 01:57:40,560 happy to do 3310 01:57:44,149 --> 01:57:42,239 right 3311 01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:44,159 andrew whitley says when are you going 3312 01:57:48,070 --> 01:57:46,480 to do a music review for your subscriber 3313 01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:48,080 songs they made 3314 01:57:51,189 --> 01:57:49,440 uh 3315 01:57:53,750 --> 01:57:51,199 email me them at truthseekershow 3316 01:57:54,629 --> 01:57:53,760 gmail.com i could use more music 3317 01:57:56,149 --> 01:57:54,639 so 3318 01:57:57,589 --> 01:57:56,159 it is what it is 3319 01:57:59,270 --> 01:57:57,599 okay uh 3320 01:58:00,790 --> 01:57:59,280 jamie and brianna says can be in your 3321 01:58:02,310 --> 01:58:00,800 peach thank you i was my pleasure 3322 01:58:04,950 --> 01:58:02,320 hosting you guys tonight you guys are 3323 01:58:07,830 --> 01:58:04,960 always welcome back oh they're at 407 3324 01:58:09,669 --> 01:58:07,840 now when we've still got let's see 65 3325 01:58:12,310 --> 01:58:09,679 people watching us 3326 01:58:13,669 --> 01:58:12,320 uh or 60 watching us so a few more of 3327 01:58:15,270 --> 01:58:13,679 you should go over there and help them 3328 01:58:16,229 --> 01:58:15,280 out i would appreciate it 3329 01:58:18,950 --> 01:58:16,239 right 3330 01:58:22,229 --> 01:58:18,960 and walt corbin says great show uh 3331 01:58:23,030 --> 01:58:22,239 brianna and jamie yeah i very much had 3332 01:58:24,629 --> 01:58:23,040 fun 3333 01:58:26,709 --> 01:58:24,639 dorothy hawkins says everything's coming 3334 01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:26,719 up bacon for leigh guy and you 3335 01:58:34,550 --> 01:58:31,830 well 3336 01:58:37,910 --> 01:58:34,560 like i said uh 3337 01:58:40,950 --> 01:58:37,920 yeah and welcome to the show is here 3338 01:58:42,870 --> 01:58:40,960 sharing a link to their youtube address 3339 01:58:45,030 --> 01:58:42,880 uh and that is very helpful thank you 3340 01:58:45,830 --> 01:58:45,040 welcome to the show so 3341 01:58:48,629 --> 01:58:45,840 uh 3342 01:58:50,550 --> 01:58:48,639 boy it's been a long day for me here 3343 01:58:51,750 --> 01:58:50,560 and unfortunately i'm starting to feel 3344 01:58:53,510 --> 01:58:51,760 under the weather i'm starting to feel 3345 01:58:56,229 --> 01:58:53,520 like i got a throat thing going on and i 3346 01:58:57,669 --> 01:58:56,239 just got over a cold in the throat thing 3347 01:58:59,510 --> 01:58:57,679 so 3348 01:59:01,270 --> 01:58:59,520 i'm gonna go and try to 3349 01:59:03,830 --> 01:59:01,280 rest my throat 3350 01:59:05,750 --> 01:59:03,840 we have a full week of shows tomorrow uh 3351 01:59:07,830 --> 01:59:05,760 we've got john warner 3352 01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:07,840 it's not often you get to interview an 3353 01:59:12,950 --> 01:59:10,960 actual member of the illuminati 3354 01:59:14,229 --> 01:59:12,960 no i i bust his balls 3355 01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:14,239 but he is from one of the richest 3356 01:59:19,669 --> 01:59:16,800 wealthiest families in the world 3357 01:59:23,109 --> 01:59:19,679 and he has a keen interest in all things 3358 01:59:25,350 --> 01:59:23,119 esoteric and strange including ufos and 3359 01:59:27,430 --> 01:59:25,360 aliens so we're going to be 3360 01:59:29,910 --> 01:59:27,440 interviewing him tomorrow at 7 pm 3361 01:59:31,350 --> 01:59:29,920 eastern time then we've got an evp 3362 01:59:34,390 --> 01:59:31,360 investigation 3363 01:59:35,750 --> 01:59:34,400 uh on wednesday night uh which should be 3364 01:59:37,510 --> 01:59:35,760 interesting it'll be the second time 3365 01:59:39,350 --> 01:59:37,520 that we have done a show 3366 01:59:41,350 --> 01:59:39,360 looking into 3367 01:59:43,589 --> 01:59:41,360 uh evps right 3368 01:59:45,430 --> 01:59:43,599 which is electronic voice phenomenon for 3369 01:59:47,750 --> 01:59:45,440 those that don't know 3370 01:59:50,709 --> 01:59:47,760 this is 3371 01:59:54,229 --> 01:59:50,719 the phenomenon where people believe 3372 02:00:01,109 --> 01:59:57,750 voices of ghosts and other worldly 3373 02:00:02,550 --> 02:00:01,119 creatures maybe demons maybe angels i've 3374 02:00:04,149 --> 02:00:02,560 heard some people claim that some of the 3375 02:00:05,510 --> 02:00:04,159 evps were angels some of them were 3376 02:00:07,030 --> 02:00:05,520 demons 3377 02:00:10,229 --> 02:00:07,040 um 3378 02:00:12,870 --> 02:00:10,239 jinn and other spirits and 3379 02:00:15,990 --> 02:00:12,880 deceased human spirits so we're gonna 3380 02:00:17,750 --> 02:00:16,000 have gary arnold on wednesday seven p.m 3381 02:00:19,030 --> 02:00:17,760 eastern standard time be sure to tune in 3382 02:00:20,470 --> 02:00:19,040 for that one 3383 02:00:22,149 --> 02:00:20,480 and we're still working the rest of the 3384 02:00:24,709 --> 02:00:22,159 weekend but i promise you we're gonna 3385 02:00:27,109 --> 02:00:24,719 have a bang up full week this week i've 3386 02:00:29,589 --> 02:00:27,119 got a lot of things on my to-do list and 3387 02:00:31,669 --> 02:00:29,599 shows to get finished we're diligently 3388 02:00:34,070 --> 02:00:31,679 working on that stuff 3389 02:00:35,510 --> 02:00:34,080 uh comp lizard is asking stephen will 3390 02:00:37,910 --> 02:00:35,520 you have a show with dark journalists 3391 02:00:39,510 --> 02:00:37,920 soon uh you know cut lazer i asked him 3392 02:00:40,390 --> 02:00:39,520 for an interview some time ago but i 3393 02:00:41,510 --> 02:00:40,400 understand 3394 02:00:42,950 --> 02:00:41,520 you always have to remember that when 3395 02:00:44,310 --> 02:00:42,960 somebody does their own show they're so 3396 02:00:45,910 --> 02:00:44,320 busy with their show that's hard for 3397 02:00:48,070 --> 02:00:45,920 them to get a couple of hours to do a 3398 02:00:49,910 --> 02:00:48,080 guest spot or an hour even 3399 02:00:51,109 --> 02:00:49,920 um but i'm going to reach out to them 3400 02:00:53,270 --> 02:00:51,119 because uh 3401 02:00:54,870 --> 02:00:53,280 couples are you and about 10 other 3402 02:00:56,550 --> 02:00:54,880 people have asked me to interview him 3403 02:00:57,830 --> 02:00:56,560 and i would certainly enjoy that so 3404 02:00:59,589 --> 02:00:57,840 we're going to see if we can't make that 3405 02:01:01,669 --> 02:00:59,599 happen for you the audience the 3406 02:01:02,790 --> 02:01:01,679 listeners we always try to please the 3407 02:01:05,109 --> 02:01:02,800 audience if that's something the 3408 02:01:07,589 --> 02:01:05,119 audience wants i will all i can do is 3409 02:01:11,270 --> 02:01:07,599 ask accomplish there i'd be all for that 3410 02:01:15,030 --> 02:01:13,589 yeah randall hill says electronic voice 3411 02:01:17,270 --> 02:01:15,040 phenomenon don't be messing with those 3412 02:01:19,350 --> 02:01:17,280 spare boxes man divination yes some of 3413 02:01:21,109 --> 02:01:19,360 those spirit boxes seem a little suspect 3414 02:01:23,910 --> 02:01:21,119 to me 3415 02:01:26,470 --> 02:01:23,920 you know because i don't know on what 3416 02:01:27,350 --> 02:01:26,480 theory they work right they seem a 3417 02:01:28,310 --> 02:01:27,360 little 3418 02:01:30,470 --> 02:01:28,320 uh 3419 02:01:32,149 --> 02:01:30,480 nutty 3420 02:01:33,910 --> 02:01:32,159 will there be an annual award show who 3421 02:01:38,470 --> 02:01:33,920 is the biggest douche in the universe 3422 02:01:41,669 --> 02:01:38,480 yeah i don't know thanks stephen broody 3423 02:01:43,589 --> 02:01:41,679 yeah uh glad that we could uh do glitch 3424 02:01:44,950 --> 02:01:43,599 says we'll harass him for you no please 3425 02:01:46,470 --> 02:01:44,960 don't do that that's the last thing i 3426 02:01:48,070 --> 02:01:46,480 want anybody to do is harass dark 3427 02:01:50,310 --> 02:01:48,080 journalists right 3428 02:01:51,830 --> 02:01:50,320 um but we do have kate schneider in her 3429 02:01:53,830 --> 02:01:51,840 live chat a lot and that's his 3430 02:01:55,669 --> 02:01:53,840 girlfriend that he lives with so i and 3431 02:01:57,189 --> 02:01:55,679 we joked i joked with her can you get 3432 02:01:59,270 --> 02:01:57,199 him to uh you know i don't know i'm 3433 02:02:01,830 --> 02:01:59,280 gonna ask him and her and see 3434 02:02:04,310 --> 02:02:01,840 see what has uh well corbin says great 3435 02:02:06,870 --> 02:02:04,320 show i'm off to goof on uh yeah i'm 3436 02:02:08,950 --> 02:02:06,880 wrapping things up here walt corbin and 3437 02:02:10,390 --> 02:02:08,960 good to see you and say hello to rich 3438 02:02:13,109 --> 02:02:10,400 from goofon when you get over the live 3439 02:02:17,030 --> 02:02:13,119 chat maybe i'll stop on in there 3440 02:02:18,950 --> 02:02:17,040 uh i would like that i haven't 3441 02:02:21,750 --> 02:02:18,960 checked in with him for a while 3442 02:02:23,189 --> 02:02:21,760 uh and i like to uh try to keep up so 3443 02:02:24,310 --> 02:02:23,199 maybe i'll drop on over there in a 3444 02:02:26,550 --> 02:02:24,320 little bit 3445 02:02:29,189 --> 02:02:26,560 i want to thank once again our guests 3446 02:02:32,310 --> 02:02:29,199 tonight jamie and brianna from that one 3447 02:02:34,149 --> 02:02:32,320 time i was abducted by aliens podcast 3448 02:02:36,310 --> 02:02:34,159 and video show mail 3449 02:02:39,430 --> 02:02:36,320 again the links in the description of 3450 02:02:41,350 --> 02:02:39,440 this video or this uh audio podcast 3451 02:02:43,189 --> 02:02:41,360 please go over there help those girls 3452 02:02:45,189 --> 02:02:43,199 out they're really trying to do some 3453 02:02:46,950 --> 02:02:45,199 cool and interesting work 3454 02:02:49,350 --> 02:02:46,960 and uh they're just fun people to be 3455 02:02:50,790 --> 02:02:49,360 around right they're uh 3456 02:02:52,950 --> 02:02:50,800 it's kind of like they have a good time 3457 02:02:54,950 --> 02:02:52,960 doing what they're doing it's easy to 3458 02:02:56,310 --> 02:02:54,960 lose sight of that right this gets to be 3459 02:02:59,189 --> 02:02:56,320 a bit of a grind sometimes and you 3460 02:03:01,750 --> 02:02:59,199 forget that this is supposed to be fun 3461 02:03:03,910 --> 02:03:01,760 uh i want to thank them for reminding me 3462 02:03:05,430 --> 02:03:03,920 that this is supposed to be fun 3463 02:03:07,589 --> 02:03:05,440 and you always hear me say this i'm 3464 02:03:09,430 --> 02:03:07,599 always happy when there's an audience uh 3465 02:03:11,910 --> 02:03:09,440 i can't thank you enough for being here 3466 02:03:14,149 --> 02:03:11,920 today spending some quality time with me 3467 02:03:16,870 --> 02:03:14,159 and my guests and being a part of my 3468 02:03:18,870 --> 02:03:16,880 audience we had great numbers tonight um 3469 02:03:21,510 --> 02:03:18,880 so i want to thank you for being in the 3470 02:03:23,430 --> 02:03:21,520 audience uh no place that i would rather 3471 02:03:25,109 --> 02:03:23,440 be than right here with you 3472 02:03:27,350 --> 02:03:25,119 uh but our time 3473 02:03:29,750 --> 02:03:27,360 sadly has run out for today i will be 3474 02:03:32,070 --> 02:03:29,760 back tomorrow 7pm eastern standard time 3475 02:03:33,109 --> 02:03:32,080 with you all can't wait for tomorrow's 3476 02:03:35,510 --> 02:03:33,119 interview 3477 02:03:41,790 --> 02:03:35,520 uh so until next time friends my name is 3478 02:05:02,130 --> 02:04:01,350 [Music] 3479 02:05:45,750 --> 02:05:02,140 [Applause] 3480 02:05:48,330 --> 02:05:45,760 [Music] 3481 02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:48,340 catch 3482 02:06:28,629 --> 02:06:21,580 [Music] 3483 02:07:21,160 --> 02:06:30,190 mmm 3484 02:08:00,340 --> 02:07:28,740 [Music]